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Jake's Revenge In The Razorback
A grizzled hunter on his knees in a burning yard, a house ripped open like paper, and an outback that hums like a live wire—Razorback doesn’t just show a monster, it makes the landscape complicit. We kick off spooky season swapping first-scare stories (The Shining’s dread vs The Exorcist’s evil) and then zero in on why this cult Aussie horror film still hits: uncompromising atmosphere, muscular sound design, and images that lodge in your brain.
We unpack Russell Mulcahy’s music-video precision and Dean Semler’s scorching cinematography, where lens flares, silhouettes, and low angles turn heat and dust into threat. The boar is unforgettable not because it’s constantly on screen, but because tusks explode through walls and a windmill rattles like a dying star. Practical effects do the heavy lifting; partial reveals and offscreen violence keep your imagination on a leash it can’t break. Ivan Davies’ score and the cannery’s metallic grind sharpen the suspense until the finale becomes a lesson in how to stage a monster kill with timing and geography.
Under the pulp, there’s story. Jake Cullen isn’t comic relief; he’s Ahab in a battered ute, fueled by grief and proof-seeking. Beth’s investigation and Carl’s fish-out-of-water stumble through a town propped up by poaching, where the Baker brothers hide human cruelty behind a convenient beast. We challenge aggregator scores and paid-bot noise, arguing Razorback’s craft-forward approach earned its cult following on VHS shelves and HBO loops, not on tomato meters. If you care about horror that privileges mood, blocking, and sound over cheap shocks, this is a feast.
Queue it up, then tell us: which first got under your skin—The Shining or The Exorcist—and where does Razorback rank in the creature-feature canon? Subscribe, share with a horror friend, and leave a review to help other genre fans find us.
Trick or treat, kids. It's spooky season, man. Smash some pumpkins. Smash some pumpkins, that's right.
SPEAKER_07:Watch trick or treat.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Inspect all your candy for razor blades.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. Listen to the misfits.
SPEAKER_04:And uh this episode where this is take two.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. Actually. Yeah, yeah, right, right. Yeah, we uh last week. Sean wasn't happy with the levels, so we need to.
SPEAKER_04:I I am a stickler for audio quality.
SPEAKER_07:Sean is a slave driver.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, so last week we kind of sat down and got to watch it, and I I got to see it for the first time. And you know, you showed me a couple clips earlier, and I was really impressed with just how cinematic and atmospheric this movie is.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, yeah. Um I would uh I would uh venture to say that this film has more atmosphere in the first 15 minutes than a lot of movies have nowadays.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, absolutely. Especially one with the premise that this one has.
SPEAKER_07:Oh yeah. Visually, it's just it's a beautiful film.
SPEAKER_04:I thought we'd start off this episode by talking about our favorite scary movies. You go first. All right. Well, I was thinking about it, you know, kind of going through my my whole catalog of films that I've seen over the years. And one thing I I thought about is not just what's my favorite scary movie, but what's my favorite experience with a movie. And I'd have to say that The Shining was by far the most intense and scariest uh experience I've had with a movie. You know, I was at the time, I think I was 16, living out in this small little community in Ording, Washington, uh on the on this road called Patterson Road.
SPEAKER_07:And down that road?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. And back in the day, I mean, I don't know what it looks like now, but back in the day, it's yeah, there's nothing out there, man. Uh and my one of my friends that I I would hang out with all the time, you know, Eli. Shout out to Eli if you're out there, uh, he suggested that we watch The Shining. And so I hiked out there in the middle of the woods, you know. I I it's about three and a half miles away. And so yeah, he he has this little single wide out in the middle of nowhere. And we're smoking weed and getting a little drunk, you know, as one does. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Uh when you're about to watch one of the most terrifying films ever made.
SPEAKER_04:Exactly. And I I remember just uh that soundtrack, the intro. Wendy Carlos. And it that movie disturbed me so much, and I don't know if it's because I was drunk and high, but I I was so disturbed by it that I couldn't finish watching it. Probably not yeah. So we I I I told my friends, like, look, man, I gotta go home. And so I had I hiked through the the dark woods rather than sit there. I I felt so disturbed by this movie that I had to leave. And every step of the way, I'm just looking around like fuck, what was that sound? You know, just terrified out of my mind. But yeah, I was there.
SPEAKER_07:You were a country boy, you shouldn't have been scared of that.
SPEAKER_04:I shouldn't have been, I shouldn't have been, but I was. There was just something deeply and profoundly disturbing about that movie, just a sense of dread.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, um I yeah, I would agree with you on that. That's not uh The Shining is scary, but to me the book was more terrifying. The book terrified me when I read it. Um that's to me that's Stephen King's best book. That's that's my favorite Stephen King book ever. Yeah. That's one of my favorite books ever. But um my most terrifying film was The Exorcist, hands down. Yeah, The Exorcist. And I wasn't allowed to watch The Exorcist when I was a kid. My grandparents were they were very permissive with what I watched, but you know, I could they basically let me watch whatever I wanted, as long as it wasn't like porno or something like that. But uh I was expressly forbidden to see The Exorcist. Wow. They had seen it. Oh, we were a r religious family, so they didn't want to let the evil in. No, and they they thought and it's funny, it's really funny because um when I was a kid, this is kind of a funny experience. Um when I was a kid, uh we started getting Doctor Who on BBC, uh not BBC, but on uh channel nine, I think it was. Either nine or twelve.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:The uh, you know, the public broadcast. Right. And my grandmother, I started watching Doctor Who, I got obsessed with it. Tom Baker was my doctor, the fourth doctor, and she thought that I was gonna join a cult for watching Doctor Who, and I was just like, it fucking blew me away, man, because I'm like, you let me watch like Texas Chainsaw and you know The Hills Have Eyes and everything else and all this other like really violent shit. Yeah, but you think Doctor Who is bad, really?
SPEAKER_04:How did how did that compute? I don't understand where you drew all those connections.
SPEAKER_07:She just, you know, I got into Doctor Who like so fast, and I I would watch it like every time it was on, and she was like, What is it about that? It's cheap looking. I was like, I know it's fucking awesome. You know, I loved it. I love Doctor Who, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I think he sucks now, but I think I was more of a Red Dwarf fan than Doctor Who, but well, yeah, that too, and Black Outer. Yeah, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Even as Roman Atkinson was a he's a great actor.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, he's absolutely you know, Mr.
SPEAKER_07:Bean, all that shit. Yep. But Red Dwarf, yeah. The the the cult British stuff was really good.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Anytime they had those uh those marathons, oh yeah, me and my friends, we'd all get together and we'd sit there and watch them for fucking days.
SPEAKER_07:All the all the people that they collected to answer the phones and shit, like, yeah, that checks out.
SPEAKER_04:We we'd make backstories about all the people that were on the phones answering the phone calls.
SPEAKER_07:All these people wearing like the hats with the H on it for hologram. Yeah, yeah. It's like yeah, it's good. Good shit. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So The Exorcist was like uh a transformative experience.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, it scared the shit out of me. Yeah, it still scares me to this day. Yeah, yeah. I was 14 when I uh the first time I got to see it, and then and I saw it at a friend's house because my grandparents would uh they'd look at some of the tapes that I would bring home once in a while just to make sure that everything was on the up and up.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:And uh it was a my friend's uh his 15th birthday party, and he's like, Hey, I got the exorcist. And I was like, Yes. Because I really wanted to see it, you know. You know when you're a kid and you say you can't that your parents tell you you can't do something. Oh, that just makes you want to see it walk. You know, yeah. So yeah, and that I watched The Exorcist and I couldn't sleep for like three weeks afterwards. Wow. The the the image of of Dr. of uh Captain Howdy is burned into my brain forever.
SPEAKER_06:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Part of that film's power is it's just so evil and over the top. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And and when it weaponizes any sort of religious beliefs you have about Satan. Oh, totally.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, it makes you believe that there is true evil out there, which there is. Yeah. I mean, and I think that that film it it takes all of our fears about evil and it manifests it into something physical and ugly, yeah. And in the in the character of Reagan and how demonic and just evil she became. Yeah. And it's it it's a profound film.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:I dare anybody to not feel something when they come out of watching The Exorcist. Oh, fucking dare.
SPEAKER_04:There's a reason why that that movie won awards. It was it was uh critically acclaimed as well as oh, critically condemned and acclaimed at the same time.
SPEAKER_07:The Catholic Church wanted that movie burned. Yeah, yeah, they they wanted it destroyed, and you know, William Freakin was like whatever.
SPEAKER_04:The people have spoken. Yeah, fuck yourself.
SPEAKER_07:You know, it's like, you know, and um, yeah, The Exorcist. Hell yeah, dude. If you haven't seen it, go watch it.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, absolutely. Uh, practical effects are great, the sound is great.
SPEAKER_07:Dick Smith's makeup, that makeup won an Academy Award as well as it should have. Didn't the sound design get uh an award? Yeah, or at least a mention, yeah. Michael Oldfield's soundtrack, you know, tubular bells. Yeah, that's how many times have you heard that? Right. And you know, that's an earworm. Yep. When you hear tubular bells, you're like, holy shit.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:But anyway, on to Razorback. Yeah, but happy Halloween.
SPEAKER_04:Happy Halloween, everyone. What's your favorite scary movie of all time?
SPEAKER_00:Of all time is The Exorcist because it scared the hell out of me out of probably age eight and got me into horror movies.
SPEAKER_04:This movie uh didn't do so great on Rotten Tomatoes, and I just want to take a minute and talk about that because anybody that goes on Rotten Tomatoes nowadays and judges what they watch based off of you know the ratings, you're missing out, man. You're missing out on some really good films.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. You need to listen to us and do your own research.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_07:We won't steer you wrong.
SPEAKER_04:We we will never steer you wrong. Uh so ignore Rotten Tomatoes and listen to the Dark Territory podcast. Yeah. That's that's what you should take away from this kids.
SPEAKER_07:Because a lot of their a lot of their reviews are paid bots.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:They're bots.
SPEAKER_04:For real. For real.
SPEAKER_07:Do you want to listen to AI for your movie recommendations? Or to degenerates like us? I would choose the latter. Yeah. I mean, Rotten Tomatoes, it's an outdated company anyway. Yeah. I never after after that whole Star Wars debacle with the new trilogy and how many positive reviews I got, I knew they were full of shit. Yeah. Fuck them.
SPEAKER_04:Well, they got some uh let's just read off some of the reviews, shall we? Go ahead. We got one that says Moby Dick and Jaws meet Jodorowski and Lynch alongside an overgrown pig.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. Uh Jodorowski, really?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. I'm not sure exactly where they get the Jodorowski.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. Razorback is, I mean, it's really stylized, but the reason for that is the guy that directed it, he he directed probably every classic music video. Yeah. Russell Mel K, he he directed uh Video Killed the Radio Star. Yeah. Which was the very first MTV video ever aired in 1981. So, you know, I could understand that uh that comparison in that way, but Joe Dorowski, no. I mean I've seen I've seen all of Joe Dorowski's movies, and no.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. There were a few striking scenes during the when he's hallucinating where he's walking along this, it looks like like salt flats or something, and you got the large crack down the side of the yeah, that's exactly what it was.
SPEAKER_07:It was a salt flat.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:And that crack was a it was a matte painting.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, okay. Yeah, it looked cool. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know about Joodorowski, man. No. Um if you guys like puns, here's one. Surprisingly boring, and then in hyphenation, yeah, it says please clap. Uh yeah. People just you know that's fucking cringe. For real. Uh yeah. I mean, it's a good movie. You should see it.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, it's it's it's great. It's a great movie. Um, I it's a shame that it didn't do as well as it did in the box office. Yeah. It really found its legs, you know.
SPEAKER_04:No pun intended.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. Jaws on Trotters. Yeah. That's the name of the documentary on the Blu-ray. But um, it really found its legs on HBO when uh, you know, HBO was looking for content, so they bought up every horror film that they could. Yeah. You know, so it was in constant rotation like this in uh our previous uh podcast, Return of Living Dead, that and H on HBO all the time. Is that how you found it? Was was by watching on HBO? The Razorback? Yeah. No, I found it at a shop right oh yeah, my local uh grocery store. I had already blown through every every video at Canyon Video, which was the small video store by my house.
SPEAKER_04:And um Then they had some like some VHS or something out in the corner.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, it was in like a it was in like a like a magazine rack, but it was like they had like the comedy was on top, the drama was in the middle, and the horror and sci-fi was at the bottom. So I lurked down there and I blasted through every single movie they had. And um when it came to rent Razorback, I was like, oh check it out, you know, look cool.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:And it yeah, what grabbed me was the the cover for it, the VHS cover. Back in the day, we didn't have AI, so we the every cover was painted or you know, it was basically painted.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, done by hand.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, and it was beautiful, it's great. It's like uh as this uh the background is like the the razorback's face in the clouds at night, and you know, these two massive tusks sticking out. It is beautiful, dude.
SPEAKER_04:Hell yeah. Probably look good on it.
SPEAKER_07:And then yeah, uh Rotten Cotton probably has a t-shirt of it. I don't know. But um, I you know, I read the the preface on the back and it says a new breed of terror. I was like, oh that's fucking cool.
SPEAKER_06:Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_07:And um I liked I liked the uh the comparison that it made with Jaws. A lot of people will compare this movie with Jaws because it's a giant, it's a giant pig. It's like Jaws on Land, which is fair. I mean, because Jaws is awesome.
SPEAKER_04:And it and just like in Jaws, you don't really get to see this thing like in detail up close uh for most of the film.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, and I don't know why, because you know they spent$250,000 on the main pig. They made six different, they made six different copies of it, two of which they could like one was put on a pneumatic pump to blast through things, yeah, to blast through like walls and buildings. You can definitely see that, yeah. Which is in the very first scene of the movie. Yeah, he fucks this house up. Oh yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_04:Um yeah, and it was you say one was on a a dog?
SPEAKER_07:No, yeah, and that's that's what I wanted to I need to revise that. They actually they they got a pig. It was a pig. Oh I heard it was a dog, yeah, but it was an actual pig, and they they needed to make like a bot uh uh a body cast of it. So they knocked this pig out, they get a veterinarian to knock it out and shit, and um, they make the life cast of it, and then uh they make a a little suit for it to and then um yeah, there's a there's this really cool scene where uh the main character of Beth, she's f uh filming stuff for a documentary. That's the reason why she's in Australia, and there's a shot, she's taking a shot of the sunset, and you see the razorback come up on this little ridge. Yeah, that was a pig. I thought it was a dog for some reason. I heard somebody say it was a dog, but fuck it, you know. It's a cool scene. And apparently that the pig took off and just went feral and went into the into the outback somewhere. They were they weren't able to find it. Huh. They found the suit, it like shook it off and then fucking bounced. Yeah, he fucking bounced. He's like, fuck this place. Fuck you guys, I'm out of here. Yeah, went back to the land.
SPEAKER_04:What's your favorite horror movie of all time?
SPEAKER_00:Uh, I really enjoy a movie called Mermaid in a Manhole. My favorite scary movie all time would be The Blair Witch Project.
SPEAKER_01:Currently, currently, my favorite horror movie of all time will have to be A Nightmare on Elm Street 3.
SPEAKER_04:Shall we start off the uh the first scene of this movie? Oh, yeah. Alright. Yeah. We get we get uh some really nice shots, actually, nice establishing shots of this film.
SPEAKER_07:All natural light, which it's it still impresses me how they got the there's like these beautiful orange like textures in the in the way it's shot and the shadow and light, and it's just like Jesus, how did they do that with no lighting?
SPEAKER_04:Very misty and kind of like you know, almost like a sandstorm just swept through, and you just get all this really nice soft light coming through.
SPEAKER_07:Um yeah, they they created that effect by uh three aircraft, they had three aircraft engines blowing. That's how they got the sandstorm effect. Because it's supposed to be a sandstorm coming in. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Nobody got hurt.
SPEAKER_07:No, that would have been loud as fuck, though. Oh my god. That would have been so loud.
SPEAKER_04:I had to have fucking the colour.
SPEAKER_07:Like 357 engines, like yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So we got we meet our our uh our main character, Jake Cullen. One of the main characters. One of the main characters, yeah. Yeah, he's an old kangaroo hunter, and he's just babysitting his grandson in a small home in the outback.
SPEAKER_07:Like way out there.
SPEAKER_04:Way out there. Yeah, you get you get the feeling that he's pretty well isolated out there. There's nothing in this place. Um literally in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, yeah. And then uh out of nowhere, he's suddenly attacked by this giant creature that we don't really get a good look at, but this thing just comes barreling through the house.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, he's putting his grandson down for the night. The kid's upset because it's blowing out and he's freaked out. And um, you know, he has a little toy bird that he's playing with, and Jake hears this. It's like a fucking just a giant grunt. Yeah. Like it's like nothing you've ever heard. Yeah, you know, and he looks up, he's got this fucking enfield, he racks in a f in a in a uh a shell, and he's just like, okay, I gotta go see what that was. He goes outside and he's listening and he hears like this grunting and this, you know, these noises and shit, and he's he's like on high alert because he, you know, guy's a professional hunter. Yeah, you when you hear something like that that's not normal, you know. Pay attention. Yeah. And the thing smashes through this fence and jumps right up on the on the deck and comes straight at him, breaks his leg and smashes straight through his house, dude. I mean, like barreling. And you can hear it like running and shit, and you're just like, wow, that thing is fast.
SPEAKER_04:Well, and there's a it's a great pan shot, too. And every time this creature enters the frame like that, it shakes, like the whole thing is just shaking.
SPEAKER_07:Like it has a lot of power to it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a semi-truck coming through your house.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. And then, you know, it takes the kid, eats him. Yep. And Jake is just distraught, and he's like stumbling around. He's got a flashlight, he's screaming for his grandson, and then he drops to the ground and he screams, and then like the title card comes up. It's a really cool shot. Yeah. I mean, to be honest, every shot in this movie is fucking cool.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That shot in particular where the house is on fire in the background, and you just see him on his knees just screaming like Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:It's very powerful. It is. It's a powerful in in introduction to this whole thing.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, and then Jake is arrested for the presumed murder of his grandson. Yep. And um, people are all, you know, he goes to court and you know, people are testifying against him. To one of the main uh antagonists of the film testifies against him. And they're asking, they're pumping this guy. His name's Dickko. Dicko Baker. Yeah, he's a real piece of a big thing. He's a fucking asshole. And um, you know, he's you know, basically says that there's there's no way a boar could get that big, and right, you know, everybody's like naysaying him and telling him he's full of shit. But he is acquitted.
SPEAKER_04:Now, you showed me last week, you showed me some pictures of real boars that get this size. Yeah, and and Hogzilla kind of looks bigger almost.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, it's huge, yeah, uh like over three thousand pounds. That's crazy. So, I mean, it's not out of the realm of possibility, and apparently they talked to a naturalist uh during the making of this film like what would happen if a boar did get that big, and it's like and you know, the naturalist basically said it would cause untold amounts of chaos and destruction. Yeah, I mean, because they're they're very irritable animals, yeah. Wild pigs are they're not to be trifled with, very territorial and they will attack you without provocation, right? That's why you know uh they're they're labeled like a a pest. Yeah. Because of all the carnage that they're it's legal to shoot them without a permit. Yeah, like the Midwest has problems with them, they root through all the crops, they they destroy everything they come into contact with. So yeah, menace. I mean, it's and it's not out of the realm of the possibility for them to get as big as probably you know, the animal that's in this movie.
SPEAKER_04:Well, so ultimately he's acquitted. Yep. And uh and let free.
SPEAKER_07:Loses everything, his daughter stops talking to him.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone thinks he's just uh some crazy old curmudgeon.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, he lives out in a bus. Yeah. Out in uh broken hill.
SPEAKER_04:Went from living in a in a shack in the middle of nowhere to now he lives in a bus in the middle of nowhere.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Not doing so good.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. But he does have an interesting hobby. He loves to shoot pigs.
SPEAKER_04:He's just he just shoots them constantly. The only time we see this guy smile really is after he's killed a bull.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, is when he shoots one.
SPEAKER_07:He's like gets his crackest little smile, and you're like, well, you know, you do you, boo.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. So then after that, we uh we're introduced to uh Beth and Carl.
SPEAKER_07:In New York, two years later?
SPEAKER_04:Yes, in New York, or at least we see the skyline of New York. I'm pretty sure everything else is filmed in Sydney. Sydney, yeah. Sydney, Australia. Yeah. Uh but yeah, Beth is uh she's a wildlife reporter for the World Animal League. Yep. And she uh she travels out to Australia to investigate the illegal can kangaroo hunting for some TV expose.
SPEAKER_07:Um which is kind of foolish because it's illegal to hunt kangaroo in in Australia.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Her whole character and her kind of reason for being in this movie is still kind of a mystery to me. I'm not exactly sure. You know. And I mean, I get it. You know, she has to die so that her boyfriend comes and investigates, and then he becomes, you know, the the person. Her husband. Sorry, her husband. I don't know why, but uh, he just does not look like husband material.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, he looks like a like a cuck. Gregory Harrison is kind of milk toast in this movie, no offense to him. I mean, he's a good actor, but it's weird because I always resonated more with the character of Jake in this movie. Same. I because and and that Moby Dick comparison, I guess, is kind of fair because you know, Ishmael, he's kind of like a fish out of water in that story, and Ahab is, you know, kind of takes him under his wing, and yeah, you know, Ishmael he sees Ahab for what he is, and Jake is kind of the same way. He's like an Ahab type character. I could see that. He's got a vendetta, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, his there is no ambiguity about his motives, man. No, he needs to kill any and all boars until he gets to the main one, like his white whale. The final boss. Yeah, yeah. All right, so uh Beth, she goes to Australia, she's uh you know, interviewing some hunters, local hunters, and then she comes across uh Benny and Dick O'Baker, the Baker brothers, who right out the get-go, you get this uh not a great vibe from these two. No, they seem hostile and uh depraved bogans, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Australian rednecks. Oh yeah, it's like Australian white trash, yeah, in spades, yeah. In America we call it white trash. In England they call them chavs, and in Australia they're called bogans, and these two are absolute bogans. Oh, I'm telling you. They're uh you wouldn't want to hang out with these guys, they're just like uh I don't know, it's like the uh deliverance, you know, without the banjo, these two.
SPEAKER_04:Um so yeah.
SPEAKER_07:What happens after that? They uh she goes to the pet pet cannery to try and interview them, and she's she's filming them with uh illegally. Yeah. You know, she is trespassing.
SPEAKER_04:So I like how she pokes her giant camera through the through one of the windows in in the slaughterhouse. Yeah. And as if like she's not gonna be spotted. I mean, yeah, it's pretty obvious that she's there.
SPEAKER_07:You know, and and uh and Dicko he gets in her face and he's like, What's up, yo?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you American shit you give me.
SPEAKER_07:You know, and it's and she's like, come on. He's like, and he grabs the camera and he like rips the front of it off and he's like, Hey, you want to go back?
SPEAKER_05:It's kind of a clumsy scene, yeah. A little bit the way it plays out.
SPEAKER_07:And then she takes off and he chases after her, and he like he always does like this little like skidding stop when he runs. It's like he has like a uh like a neurological problem or something.
SPEAKER_04:You're right. He I've noticed that throughout the whole movie, he's got a really bizarre like physicality to his character. Yeah, like he's got a twitch or something. It's just it's kind of odd. Get definitely like tweaker energy from this guy. Oh, yeah. Favorite scary movie of all time?
SPEAKER_01:Really into Scream, it's super watchable. I love obviously Friday the 13th, but that's why, yeah, Nightmare on Elm Street and Scream are definitely up there with the watchable series.
SPEAKER_08:Oh, for sure.
SPEAKER_04:So next we have Beth driving at night down a desolate road. And uh it is desolate too. It is, man. It looks like there is nothing for miles. Like if you broke down, your shit would be fucked. You'd be in a bad way. And in this case, she she is. She doesn't know it yet, but she's about to run into the Baker brothers again. And uh this time. Well, in their rig, it's ridiculous. I mean, it looks like something from From the Road Warrior.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. Like Mad Max. Yeah, they got doesn't have hooks and stuff hanging off of it. Yeah. It's got like a big battering ram on the front of it. It's like, why would you have that?
SPEAKER_04:Well, just in case you want to run a poor old woman off the road, I guess.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, or are you or or you're or you're gonna play a game of gas lands in real life? It's like, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that could be fun. But uh, yeah, I mean, once again, you know, you got you get these really great shots. Uh kind of the cameras low to the ground as the car's driving, and you get the nice like uh, you know, the headlights going through the the mist.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, it's it's it's kind of funny because I would if you wanted to compare this guy to any other sort of filmmaker, uh the the Lynch and Joe Dorowski shit, no. No, maybe Kubrick. Yeah, because every shot is every shot is purpose, yeah, it's purposeful and um composed, like like a photograph.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. You're right, it's the Kubrick of uh horror pig movies.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. I think if Kubrick and Dean Semler, the DP for this movie, had made a movie, oh my god, that would have been like fucking beautiful and strange. Yeah. You know, and and there's not a lot of films like that. I mean, you have Clockwork Orange, Blade Runner, yep. I dare to say this film, but you know, if you if you know what to look at, you can say you can see a film be like, God, that was beautifully shot. Dances with Wolves. Oh, yeah. Dean Semler worked on that one as well. I didn't know that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Nice.
SPEAKER_07:And he won an Academy Award for that as well. So yeah. As you should. Yeah, you know, a good DP is essential. Yeah. If you want to make a movie, you know, like really pop, you know.
SPEAKER_04:Even you know, you can make a movie with a shitty script and bad acting, but if you got a good DP, it might be all you need.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, it's like uh uh that that guy uh Panos Cosmados that made Beyond the Black Rainbow. Yeah. I think he would be a much better director of photography than a director.
SPEAKER_04:I would agree with that.
SPEAKER_07:Because I think his his his storytelling ability kind of lacks.
SPEAKER_04:It's a it's a little yeah, it's a little waning, and he doesn't know how to uh stick the landing at the end of his films, I've noticed. Yeah, but they look both fucking amazing. Yeah. That's another one we're gonna review.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Alright, so Beth, uh out of nowhere, Baker brothers come in, ram her car off the road, and now she's in real trouble because these guys uh they're rough. They're rough, man. This is kind of a rough scene, you know, for anyone who's you know kind of triggered by this sort of thing. The the way that this the scene is shot, you know, you got uh Benny on the top with the the spotlight.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I mean, you know, because at first he just like just acts like he's gonna slap around a little bit, which he does. He does slap her, drags her by her hair and shit, like a like a literal caveman.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you know, so a lot of interesting uh there's a lot of uh lens flares in this movie, uh, which I don't know. Some people are a fan of lens flares, some aren't. I like them. Maybe it's because of Spielberger, you know, back in the day, but it just has a cool look to it.
SPEAKER_07:Uh I think I think uh the lens flares kind of overkill. It's like you don't get lens for lens flares in your vision in real life unless you have like a vision problem. Well, that's that's why it's a stylistic choice, right?
SPEAKER_04:You know, yeah. Yeah. But there's like uh anyway, there's a lot of like sort of uh light coming from the back, so you get a lot of these silhouette shots, you know, when she's on the ground, and uh and then we hear the the sounds from razor back. Yeah, and uh uh they don't they don't get attacked, but they get spooked, right?
SPEAKER_07:Their truck gets attacked. That's right.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_07:It almost knocks Benny off.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I wish it did.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, that thing's got a lot of like push power to it. I don't know how many horsepowers a uh a boar could generate, but he smashed the shit out of that truck.
SPEAKER_04:Well, and and seeing what he could do to a house, I'm surprised that truck was still standing, man. That thing should have been knocked the fuck over, yeah, turned into twisted metal. All right, so the Baker brothers take off, and uh Beth is left there to try to fend for herself, and this shot's it's it's great because again, we don't really see this bore, but just the sheer force of this thing, and you see her kind of struggling to hold on to anything while it's kind of attacking her from behind. Oh, yeah, it rips her door clean off the car. Yeah, and it's a great scene. It's a it's a great horror scene. It's it's one of those typical kind of you know horror scenes where the sound kind of heightens the violence, and and and you don't really see a lot of blood, but just the way this thing tears through the car.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, and Warner Brothers, the distributors for this movie, they wanted uh they cut a bunch of stuff out of that scene because in the VHS cut, you saw the deleted scenes. That scene is longer, but it was it's a brutal scene.
SPEAKER_04:For real. You know, one thing one thing I found interesting about uh this scene and and the the Baker Brothers in general is how the bore and and how grotesque and violent it is kind of almost mimics the the Baker brothers in their side of the world.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, they're almost like symbiote.
SPEAKER_04:Exactly.
SPEAKER_07:Because they eventually themselves back as kind of a cover for their crimes. They're like, you know, because there's a scene later in the film where you know they plan on doing some really nefarious shit, and and Benny's like, You're mad, Dickko. You can't go around killing people because you don't like them. And Dicko's like, I kill anybody. Yeah. So raise it back, eh?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. It's almost like he's he's passing the buck on to this thing. Like, it's not me, it's the reason. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of a cool twist. I like that. Kind of shows just how not just depraved, but he's kind of fucked up in the head, man. This there's something not right with this guy. So we get we get uh Jake back in the scene. He's uh he finds best car and evidence of the Baker brothers, and then he uh takes it upon himself to go confront him uh with kind of hilarious effect.
SPEAKER_07:It's fucking crazy. He rolls up on their pad, which um they live in an opal mine.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, which is kind of a cool sp spot.
SPEAKER_07:I mean, it it's fucking weird looking, but yeah, but a lot of people in the outback they live in opal mines because it's it's cool down there. They you know, it's it's hot during the day. So, you know, these abandoned opal mines, they re they refurbish them. It's basically like a hobbit hole. They look pretty cool. I mean, I would I would go do research and look at pictures of people that live in opal mines. Um, it's not an uncommon thing. Yeah. And uh Jake rolls up and he calls, he calls up for uh Benny, and Benny comes out, he's like, What do you want, Jake? And fucking, and uh Jake's like, you were there, and Benny's like, We were where? You and Dicko.
SPEAKER_03:It's like Dicko didn't see anything, like he didn't see any bulls, he didn't see any women.
SPEAKER_07:And fucking Jake is just like whatever, and he he throws the meat hook on the ground and Benny's just kind of like whatever, yeah, fuck out of here, you know, and Dicko comes up and he's got his fucking shotgun. He just like straight up points a fucking shotgun at Jake. It's like it's crazy because these guys just roll around like openly carrying. It's just like you know, it's like living in America, you know, they got so many fucking guns in this movie. I'm just like, yeah, goddamn, you guys going to war or what? Yeah, it's not that dangerous out there. I mean, yeah, every species in Australia wants to kill you, but do you really need to be armed up like every day? For real, like just rolling over to somebody's house carrying. It's like, yeah, okay, no wonder they pulled a fucking shotgun on him. Yeah, and then as Jake is leaving, Dicko basically fucking unloads on him, just starts shooting at him, shoots the fucking back of his truck. Yeah, and then uh Benny's like, hey, knock it off. And uh he fucking aims a gun at his own brother and shoots at him.
SPEAKER_04:It's like, wow, he's completely unhinged.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, it's like who the fuck does that? Yeah, yeah. Without repercussions either. It's like there's no cops there, right? They have a constable, yeah, they have a district constable who has to go through every other district, and there's probably like 10 or 15 different districts in that whole area, and they're like hundreds of miles apart. Which kind of explains just how lawless it is. Yeah, I mean that's kind of wild to think about. Yeah, they have to police their own, basically. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't I don't think people realize how big the outback actually is. Oh, yeah. It's thousands and thousands.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, massive, which is why you don't ever want to get stuck out in the middle of the outback. You're you're pretty much screwed.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, the buddy system. Yeah, right, exactly.
SPEAKER_04:You're not getting any cell service out there, man.
SPEAKER_07:Fuck no.
SPEAKER_04:Uh there ain't no 5G out there. No, no, there is not.
SPEAKER_02:My favorite, the burbs. Tom Hanks. Oh my god. There go the goddamn brownies.
SPEAKER_04:Uh, so Carl, Carl Winter's best husband. He catches wind that his wife is missing. Yep. And he doesn't believe the official story uh that she fell down a uh a mine shaft.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, that's what everybody keeps telling him. He shows up and he is he is liter he's a fish out of the water. Oh, right. Right. He's not prepared for the the land that he's about to enter.
SPEAKER_04:No. It's hilarious when you see him walking into this desolate town, you know, with his bag, and you you just see all the locals kind of looking at him like who's this city slicker? Yeah. You know, this guy.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, he gets the same reception that his wife did. Yep. They don't like strangers there. No, you know, because for obvious reasons. Yeah, they they they run on an economy of poaching animals.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and they don't want anyone who's in the city.
SPEAKER_07:Everybody's gotta make a dollar, right? But still it's like the law is the law, I guess. Yeah. Carl meets asks about Jake Colen. Yeah, and the the the bartender of the local hotel tells him, Oh, Jake lives down this road there, turn left and go all the way down to the end. Yeah. He lives like 30 miles away, yeah. Out in the middle of nowhere. And it's funny, the the spot that they have uh Jake's camp at, that's where they film the the the oil tanker set for the Road Warrior. Oh shit, that's right. That little hill that you see in the background, yeah. That's the hill that Mad Max was on with the gyro captain when they're like filming down. Okay. And the vantage point. Yeah. Yeah. That's from the Road Warrior. Nice. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Nice old trivia.
SPEAKER_07:Broken Hill, Australia.
SPEAKER_04:Broken Hill? That's a cool name. Yeah. I like that. So he goes and he goes and meets Jake for the first time. Yeah, grizzled and haunted.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, yeah. He meets Jake and uh, you know, asks about his wife, and Jake's like, Your wife? And he's like, Yeah, Beth Winters. He's like, Oh, the kangaroo woman. Yeah, it's a shame. He's he's he says it exactly like that. Yeah, I've seen this fucking movie so many times I can do Jake's voice perfect. So he takes he takes Carl into his uh taxidermy room. Yeah, where he all taxidermy's yeah, and uh he he he delivers one of the best diss tracks in all in in this in this movie. It's like razor backs, vicious, shit-eating, godless vermin. God and the devil couldn't have created a more despicable species. And fucking and Carl's like, okay, yeah, uh he's a fucking stand there, and then and then Jake proceeds to tell him about how he digs through their shit, yeah, through their droppings, and he does. We see that later on, yeah. You know, and he's got like a there's like a broken light bulb in there and a coke bottle. It's like that thing shit that out, no way. And um and Carl just loses, he's like, Look, you're giving me a fucking lesson in wildlife here. It's my wife we're talking about, right? Kangaroo woman, Jesus, make it sound like she's got a goddamn pouch. And Jake is like, Look, son, you and me, we got something in common. Yeah, I know what you're going through. And then he's like, Well, help me. Yeah, you know, Carl's like, he's at his wit's end. I mean, his fucking wife is missing. Of course he's gonna be upset. Right. And um, Jake just tells him, try the pet pack cannery. Yep. Pet pack. So Carl proceeds to go there, and then um he meets he meets Benny.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, he meets Benny and Dicko, and you know they proceed to kind of run him through the the paces. Yeah, you know, he he becomes sort of an on-the-job training temp for a minute.
SPEAKER_07:They probably thought he came out to get a job or something, right? So they was like, All right, you do this, and it's kind of bizarre.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, it's it's kind of weird how how he's kind of thrown into their sort of way of life out of out of all this when he's just trying to find his wife.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, you know, he tells him he's Canadian.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:And Benny's like, Canadians are Americans, aren't they? It's like, no, don't say that.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, no, Canadians will hate you forever if you say that.
SPEAKER_04:It's like so yeah, the uh the Baker brothers take him take him back to their pad in this uh underground opal mine. Uh the set looks great. I mean, it it looks like what you would imagine. Yeah, it looks like some out of the hills have eyes. Yeah. Yeah, and they got it, they got electricity down there. A three-legged dog. Three-legged dog. They got a little TV that they watch while they drink beer. What kind of beer do they drink? Does it show it?
SPEAKER_07:Forex. Four X. That's like the the Australian beer. Foster's is not the main beer of Australia. It's like Budweiser. Yeah. It's not even brewed in Australia anymore. It's brewed in Texas. What the fuck? In Plano, Texas, dude. Holy shit. Yeah. That was that's my favorite beer. Yeah. I love fucking Foster's Fosters because of this movie.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, I like to okay just because you get a big giant fucking can for like three bucks or something. Hell yeah. That's value. Hell yeah, dude. Uh you know, we're looking for sponsors. Uh, Fosters, if you're listening. Fuck yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_07:Do it. Uh yeah, okay. So I'd kill my sobriety for a sponsor. Right. I would. Fosters, if you if you sponsor us, I'll drink your shit.
SPEAKER_04:And we'll film it and put it on our Patreon. Yeah. All right. So we get this funny uh moment where they cut to this Aussie in the middle of nowhere. This fucking kid. Just working class guy. He's got a big grizzly beard and fucking grizzled up hair. Yeah. Yeah. And he's just chilling, you know, drinking a beer, watching TV, laughing his ass off. Yeah. And uh just having a good time. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And then I think we hears some strange noises. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of uh foreshadowing.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, the razorback smashes through his smokehouse and steals a bunch of uh carcasses hanging in there.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Yeah. Dude's hungry, man. That's a big fucking boy. He needs a lot of food. Uh, what's your favorite horror movie of all time?
SPEAKER_01:Uh oh, it's gotta be The Bride of Chucky. Come on, man. Jennifer Tilly. Uh hey, you know.
SPEAKER_04:It's nighttime. The Baker brothers decide to take Carl hunting.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, because you can't hunt kangaroos in the daytime.
SPEAKER_04:Right. You you want to blind them with their little spotlight that they have on top of their room. It mesmerizes them. So they go out there, they're drinking the whole time. They got like a fifth of I don't know. Bourbon. Bourbon, yeah. Yeah, that's bourbon. Just uh passing it back and forth while they're driving through this. There's some really interesting shots. There's this one shot of this like all the trees out there are this really desolate and dead looking, and then you got this fucking car just randomly wedged between uh this tree. It looks very surreal.
SPEAKER_07:That was from a flash flood. That's that car is probably still there, too. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_04:It's crazy to think that the water could get that high.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, it's well, it's probably in a floodplain. That's why it had like a flash flood and bam. Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_04:Don't want to be in the way of that shit. No, won't survive. Um, but yeah, they uh they wound one of the kangaroos, and then Carl gets out to, I guess, finish the job. Um doesn't do a very good job.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, and they uh they rib him a little bit for it. They're like, 'cause cause Carl pukes. Right. Because the kangaroo isn't dead yet. He's he's a city slicker. Yeah, Carl's probably uh uh more on the liberal side, animal rights and all that, because of because of his wife. So you know, he's probably never hunted a day in his life. Yeah. He lie, you know, he's lying to the Baker brothers. He he he's got a cover, you know. He tells him when he first meets him that he hunts a deer, and they're like, Oh, okay, cool. Yeah. And then uh he pukes, he pukes right in right on the top of Dick O's head, which is hilarious. And Dicko's like, Charming, charming. Yeah. He's like, You're a tough ombre, aren't you? Do you chuck up when you're shooting deer? So there's that. They leave him out there basically. They're like, Look, Bill, you're in the middle of nowhere here, so don't go walkabout, or we'll never never find you. Yeah. So And then they say that we'll be back in like six hours. Yeah, we'll be back in five or six hours. It's like, who the fuck does that? Yeah. And technically, I I've heard that uh if you do that in in the outback, you could be like busted for manslaughter. Yeah, for attempted murder. Sure. You know, you're not supposed to leave people out there. Yeah. Because chances are that happens. I mean, if you've seen Wolf Creek, you know, lots of fucked up shit happens in Australia. Yeah. So yeah, then there's that. And you leave him out there.
SPEAKER_04:And he kind of bundles up for a minute and then falls asleep.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And then he's uh then he's startled.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, by a really loud roar. And then uh a whole group of feral pigs start going to uh the pumping shed, which is like probably the only place within a hundred miles to get water. Yep. And um he sees a windmill and he runs towards the windmill because the pigs are chasing him. And there's a really cool shot where he's running and he gets caught up in a uh in a in a barbed wire fence. And um there's a shot, there's like a wide shot where it shows two moons, two moons superimposed, and that was always a really weird shot. And I was like, what the hell? How'd they do that? Yeah. And apparently, Steven Spielberg really loved this movie. And Spielberg called the director of photography. At first, I thought it was the uh the director, but no, it was was the DP. And um, he he's like, Hey, this is Steven Spielberg. I wanted to ask you about that shot in Razorback. Yeah, and the DP was like, fuck you, you're not Steven Spielberg, and he hung up on him.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, most people will probably be like, Oh, this is a practical joke.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, it's like don't troll me, motherfucker.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_07:And um, so Steven Spielberg waited a couple minutes to let it sink in. Then he called him back. He's like, No, really, I'm Steven Spielberg, and I really want to know how you did that shot. I bet his heart just fucking fell out of his chest. Oh, he was probably freaking the fuck out. He was probably like, oh my god, I'm so sorry. I I'm you know, he's probably falling all over himself, uh uh uh apologizing. Yeah, so yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I I I watched that uh recently, that shot, and it it's it's strange how how the you know the camera's tracking him. And and yeah, it looks like it's just it's in reality, those those two things are really there. Yeah, it's it's pretty impressive.
SPEAKER_07:I don't know if they animated it or if it's just like you know, they they double exposed it or what. I don't know, man.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, cool shot.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. So he he uh clamors onto this what is it, windmill or something to kind of get away from the pigs. Yep. And uh actually, does he does he see Razor Black? Doesn't he see Razor Black? Yeah, he sees like the shadow of it, yeah. And you just kind of see the the hair and the tusks, yeah, scares the shit out of him. Yeah, and then he I guess he just kind of passes out on on that windmill, yeah. Which is not a great place to pass out.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, yeah. He he uses his belt to kind of like tie himself up so he won't fall off. Yeah, I wouldn't be able to sleep.
SPEAKER_04:Fuck no, probably too fucking terrible. Yeah, that too. Yep. Yeah, so then uh the next scene we just see him kind of dangling a little bit, it's kind of passed out on on this uh windmill.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, the next morning. Yep, and then it's surrounded by pigs and they're like bumping it. They're like, fuck you, we're gonna get you.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, you think that's gonna stop us?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, they're probably hungrier than shit. But it falls into the water, yeah. And as everybody well knows, pigs can't swim. Yeah, because they can't lift their head up. Uh-huh. So like nature has evolved them to not be able to swim. Right. And um, he's laughing at him. He's like, You can't get me.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, he yells, You can't get me. You can't swim.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, that's pretty funny. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:And then I guess he uh then they run off. Yeah. So the razorback is probably in the vicinity. Okay, maybe that's it. Yeah, every time it shows up, they bounce. That's right. Because they're like, oh fuck.
SPEAKER_04:I wonder if he eats some of the pigs. Of course he does. Yeah. Most likely.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. Wouldn't doubt it.
SPEAKER_04:Pigs eat anything.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. I mean, and an animal that size would have to eat a lot.
SPEAKER_04:So that I guess this kind of uh begins Carl's little Odyssey where he's uh dehydrated, you know. Oh yeah. And we get this, these really interesting shots. A lot of it. This is kind of like you know, showcasing a lot of this director's um oh yeah, you know, music video work. You you get you can definitely see it in these these shots. There's some cool synth lines in it. Yeah, there's that. Yeah, the music for this fucking movie is. Oh, it's great. Absolutely. Yeah. Um there's a there's this one shot of this weird like skull thing.
SPEAKER_07:It looks like it's a horse's skeleton. Is it? Yeah, that's what it was.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, it's kind of standing up.
SPEAKER_07:And it's funny because all that all that dream stuff was filmed in LA after the movie was was finished. Oh, they needed to like add more stuff. Yeah, and that's not Gregory Harrison, that's just some extra that they dressed up in his clothes.
SPEAKER_04:That's interesting. The magic of movies. Yeah, you can do anything. Yeah, like anything possible. Yeah, it's beautiful.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, and he's he's hallucinating and he's dreaming and stuff, and there's some really cool dream shots in this movie. There's one shot where it's like like if you've ever dropped acid and you've seen tracers, yeah. There's a shot where Dicko is like it's like the shadow of Dicko where and he's putting a gun to his head and he's just like shoots him. Yeah, I thought that would make like a badass album cover. Oh yeah. Yeah, and it's just like he's just like he salutes and then he's like shoots himself, and it's just like you know how trace how traceries we're delayed effects. Yeah, yeah, like tracers, you know. Yeah, and um there's just some fucking really great shots in this movie. Shooting like fireworks off into Oh, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I remember that. That was a good one.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, you you I think anybody that that's into like photography would like this, like this movie a lot. Oh, absolutely, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, so after after Carl kind of you know goes on this little trip, he uh runs into this, you know, homestead in the middle of nowhere, and uh there's this uh very attractive woman just taking a shower naked, Sarah Cameron, yeah, played by Archie Whitley, right?
SPEAKER_07:And yeah, she's uh hosing off under the tank because there's probably no plumbing out there. She probably still uses an outhouse, right? And um, you know, Carl is he's out of it completely. Oh yeah, he's probably been walking around for a couple days, yeah. Doesn't even fact, yeah. There's there's no timeline for it. He could could have been out there for a couple weeks. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if he'd survive, but yeah, yeah. And um, he sees her and he's he's basically a shot because she turns around and she screams, she's like, ah, yeah, you know, yeah, and and oh, it's a great shot. And he just she is uh she's uh she's really good looking. She's uh the same chick that played in um The Road Warrior, she was the gyro captain's girl.
SPEAKER_04:That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so Carl, he just he straight up passes out. Yeah, dude can't even stand up anymore.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Um he like almost died of shock. Yeah, yeah. And there's there's an interesting shot after uh after he wakes up, we just see Sarah on the edge of the bed, and her back is turned to him, and he he goes, he calls after her, and when she turns around, she's got a pig face on her, yeah, jumps here. Yeah, yeah. And then he he wakes up, the whole thing was a dream. Yeah, you know, except for he's actually there with Sarah.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. So she she uh she proceeds to like ask him what happens like, did your car break down?
SPEAKER_03:And he's like, No, the Baker Brothers took me out shooting.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, they left me out there. It's like, yeah, that'd be their idea of a joke. It's like so she's probably had run-ins with the Baker Brothers. Yeah, she knows it's I bet you every fucking female in that town has had run-ins run-ins with the Baker Brothers. Absolutely. Yeah, they're fucking degenerous, man. For real. I'm surprised that they haven't been, you know, I'm surprised the cops haven't shot them, yeah, or some somebody's dad fucking is like, why are you looking at my daughter, bro? So I could totally get the get the vibe from those two. If they looked at my daughter like that, I'd fucking shoot them. Oh yeah. Like, right? You know, fuck out of here. Yeah. You know, but so he proceeds to tell her that, you know, he spent the night up a windmill tower, yeah, and that pigs chased him, but and then he saw something, and something big scared, you know, he says he says something big scared him away. Yeah. And she gets this look on her face and she's like, I gotta gotta go make a call. So she runs and she calls Jake. Jake shows up, you know.
SPEAKER_05:Anytime there's a mention of a board, Jake.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, what was that? Oh, we need to give Jake something to do. Yeah. So, you know, he's he's bored in his old age. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:No pun intended.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. And you fucker. Go on. Couldn't couldn't let it go. Of course not. Of course not. You know, I'm leaving that in. Yeah. So Jake shows up and he's like, Sarah says you've seen the bull. And he's like, it was really far away. And he's like, the razor back. He's like, Yeah, I saw it, but it was it was really far away. It was hard to say how big it was. And Jake's like, I'm going out there. And for some reason, he just like he racks in a shell and just shoots this fucking. It's like a it's like an old cart out of the field or something. And it's like, God damn, this guy just unhinged. He loves unloading, dude. It's just like it's like, fuck, man, really. I like my bones. Yeah. And uh the the gun that he used was uh it uses is the same guns that the Anzac used in World War II when they fought the Germans. Yeah. So it's like uh but it was like a uh it was a like de-issued so civilians could use it. Yeah, but that's the same weapon that the Anzac used in World War II. No shit. It's a very powerful rifle.
SPEAKER_04:That infield not powerful enough to stop Razorback, though. No, it's a 308. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, so I guess Jake heads out to uh track and kill the Razorback, and then uh meanwhile, we get we get to see the Aussie again, you know, happy go lucky, just drinking his beer, watching TV.
SPEAKER_07:Uh and uh this poor guy can't he all he wants to do is you know drink his foster.
SPEAKER_04:That's all he wants to do, man.
SPEAKER_07:And and watch them Don Lane.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, but no, Razorback has other plans, yeah. Razorback out of nowhere yanks this guy, like half of this guy's house. Yeah, because he set a trap for it. Yeah, yeah, and Razorback was well, the trap was no match for the no for the just pissed it off, yeah. And so he it yeah, it yanks half the guy's house. Uh unfortunately, the part of the house that has his TV, and you just see the television kind of and the and half the house just disappear in the darkness, yeah, as Razorback just runs off.
SPEAKER_07:It's like that and they they tried to tell the director, hey, that wouldn't fucking happen. It's like it doesn't matter, it's gonna look cool. It looks great, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:It's like don't worry about it.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I love the shot where it's it's kind of the camera's from behind the guy in the in the the chair with his beer, and you just see him holding his beer, and the TV is just kind of like going off.
SPEAKER_07:Oh yeah, and he's just blown away. He's like, Like, what the fuck? Yeah, it just got torn apart, right? Right. It's fucking great.
SPEAKER_05:Is that is that the last we see of this guy?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, damn, yeah. Uh one of my favorites. It's like there's no reason for that scene, not at all. Any scene with that guy to be in it, but I think it's just comic relief. Yeah, yeah. You know, it adds a little extra. Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04:So uh next we go back to Carl and Sarah. Uh, I guess having some quality time. Uh Sarah's yeah, I mean, it's obvious that uh, you know, I think Carl is over his wife's death because he's already seems like he's he's wanting to kind of do something with uh yeah, he keeps side eye and set side-eyeing Sarah a little bit.
SPEAKER_07:And it's not lost on her, she can tell. No, she knows what's up. She gives him her uh her dad's old clothes for Carl to wear because his clothes were messed up, and she she's like checking them out, and he's like, What's wrong? He's like, Oh, I haven't seen anybody in my dad's trousers since he died. Looks good. Fucking that's kind of a weird scene.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's like whole whole dude. Might have maybe it's a metaphor. I don't know. And so then uh it doesn't say
SPEAKER_07:show uh show uh carl her like animal tracking system on a computer yeah and uh then um which looks hilarious i mean when they when they show the technology it's just this like really uh it's not even digital no i it's just this like uh static image it was 1984 yeah yeah but they're having a cup of a cup of tea and carl's kind of grilling her about how like why things are so bad with the boars you know they're eating them out of house and home and Sarah starts telling him about her research and you know how she dissects animals and you know studies them and shit and she's tells him about um she dissected a sal last week and she found a stress ulcer and he's like boars worry and she's like yeah something something lately something's been worrying them a lot yeah and Carl's like huh okay yeah a little more evidence of razor back yeah so he's not dumb he's just you know he's a guy out of his league yeah he definitely seems like like you said the fish out of water character oh just doesn't really belong there yeah but uh I mean but he's there for a purpose yep it's not like you know his fucking wife is missing yeah he just I'd go to the ends of the earth to find my wife if she was missing yeah yeah he just wants to know I'd probably go to the ends of the earth if my ex-wife was missing yeah and then I guess we go back to Jake yep and he uh it's the first time where he spots razor back and then he attempts to kill him and uh there's a there's a great little one-liner l that he says with it where they they get that kind of Spielbergian yeah focus yeah well he's he's uh surveying the the pigs they're all they'll all they're all drinking the water and stuff which is kind of weird because the razor back is there you just can't you can't barely see it because it's hiding behind like a old uh water trough so Jake is sitting there and he's surveying and he's like looking through well wait before that there's one scene where he he sees a a little it's just like a little like I don't know like maybe two year old pig he fucking blasts that thing dude he's he gets and then of course he gets that nice you know that he gets that little smile on it shoots it you know and um he sees it you know first he sees it and he's like he just fucking racks one in he's like not even blast it dude yeah he no compunction he just doesn't even stop and think it's like uh that's too small that's not gonna hurt anybody yeah he just cult blood shoots the shit out of this thing and he gets that he's like yeah fucker right you know you know that's what he's thinking he's he runs over there he's like bastard met my quota for the day yeah yeah I'm sure he eats them too oh well yeah probably you know it's probably his main source of food sure there's probably there's not much else out there yeah you know but he's you know I'm sure he like old Vikings drinking the blood of their enemies he probably's like fuck you he's probably got like a pig skull that he drinks it out of that he that's hilarious bro yeah bad hilarious bro I could totally see that yeah yeah that'd be a t-shirt yeah but yeah okay so so when we get that nice uh focus on him with his binoculars he sees razor back yeah what does he say he says he sees it and it and it does the Spielberg weird yeah it's a it's a push pull because it's pushing and pulling on it's pushing on a uh like a dolly everybody's seen it if you've seen Jaws and you see uh Roy Schneider's face when he sees Jaws for the first time it's exactly like that yeah I mean and maybe that's one reason why Spielberg liked this movie because he's like these guys obviously they guys like my movie yeah yeah so Jake he utters one of the most badass I mean it's so nonchalant he's just looked at and he's like Jesus whipped and then you know and he goes and he gets his he gets his rifle and his dogs he sets these dogs on him there's there's like three of them and they just fucking go tear ass and straight towards him dude yeah and um they're they're they're trying to spread out the other pigs so Jake can get a shot and it pisses the razor back off because it just hits this water trough and sends it fucking flying like 30 feet bro and Jake just starts unloading on it. Yep and it's like shot after shot bouncing off. Yeah I mean and if he would have like stopped and actually like calculated his shots he could have shot that fucker in the eyes and it would have been incapacitated. Yeah and he he he could have just went to town on it.
SPEAKER_04:But no he's the guy's not thinking no it's too much passion man he he wants revenge.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah and he's like die you murderous bastard yeah it's a great shot it's a great scene it's one it's the first scene I yeah it's the first scene I showed you from the movie I was like hey if you have you seen Razorback and you were like no and I was like well fucking check this out yeah we yeah I showed him at work it's it's creepy though when when they show him because he's like he's hidden like you said he's hidden behind that wall but it looks huge even from that distance yeah and and it it's such a shame that they didn't utilize the prop more because it's it's a practical effect but it looks awesome. Oh it looks dope. Hell yeah yeah and and uh Warner Brothers were super pissed because they spent a quarter of a million dollars in 1984 on on that prop. Yep you know they you know but all the money went to all the other pig props as well but that one was especially egregious to to Warner Brothers because they're like hey we paid a lot of money for that you're gonna have the movie. But yeah and for just for some reason though when you get a full on shot of it it looks fake. Yeah for some uh for some ungodly reason I don't know why yeah but you know when when when when you have the the face off with Jake and the pig it just looks like it's just sitting there.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:It's like I think I think McCarron took the money and and used more for the animatronic head because the he knew that they were gonna film they were going to film the head more than the the the large prop. Yeah so most definitely yeah yeah um and you know Jake just fucking the thing takes off but Sarah gives him a dart gun and um he shoots it with the dart and he he he he gets track it yeah he he he connects with it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah yeah yeah so now at least at that point they have a way to track this thing and find out where it is or where it's going.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. But Sarah put another tracker on on a smaller pig too and that comes into play later. Yep to funny effect.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah yeah um yeah so I guess next we see Jake sifting through the mud yeah looking for evidence because he wants to be able to prove that he didn't kill his grandson uh that the razor back does exist and uh he finds Beth's wedding ring in in all the the pig poop.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah it's funny that you mentioned that because there's a funny scene earlier with him and Sarah and she's talking about you if he's as big as you say you're gonna need help and he's like no he's mine yeah I don't want to track him yeah I want to kill him nail the bass as hide to the pub so everyone can see he says it just like that too it's just like fuck dude this guy is obsessed. For real yeah but Jake has the tracker yeah and he's sitting there and he's waiting and waiting and waiting and Sarah calls the Gamola Hotel the that's the name of the town that that this place is set in is Gamola. It's an Aboriginal word that means gut gut yeah or intestine so she's on the radio phone and she's talking to the bartender about uh if if they've seen the local constable because she she uh she tells him that Jake reckons he knows what happens to the Beth Winters woman and well not surprisingly but Dico and Benny are in the bar getting drunk yeah and they hear the conversation between Sarah and the bartender Taylor and they give they give each other this look like hmm okay so they know where Jake's camped at so they're gonna go have a little talk with Jakey that fucking that fucking mustard that's good shit sign her tits that was great yeah one of one of my old bands I got a titty shot at a show once she was hot too I was like god damn I straight up like did you guys see what I just saw on the mic and they were like yeah hell yeah dude that's the best back in the day we are all over the place today hey man we're up when are we not yeah uh no the changeling was pretty tight that episode your memory is different than mine and different than the recording that we made well you haven't played me the recording yet so I don't know I'm working on it today man okay that's that's my next thing it sound like shit no it sounds good but there's a part where we literally stop everything so we can watch your phone that's why I have visual aids oh so that's why today I think we're actually doing pretty good I think we're getting it um I feel like we so we got to the part where Jake gave the ring to fucking Carl and he's like I'm sorry son yeah and and he's just like it's okay I'm already into Sarah so I don't really care about the ring anymore. It's like fuck that she's so far in my rear view mirror um do we get to the part where Baker brothers are harassing yeah they're getting ready to uh talk to Jake yeah oh this there's some really cool shots man yeah and this scene this scene is really really rough yeah um this shows you know Jake's sleeping and then the that big ass spotlight goes on and then doesn't he shoot his fucking rifle here no at first uh you know Benny and Dickko they're sitting in the truck and they're like you know and and Benny's trying to reason with his brother he's like he's the lesser of two evils right I mean he's yeah a degenerate too but he's like dude you just you just can't go killing people because you don't like them. Yeah and Dicko's like I kill anybody so rise it back eh yeah saw as the old kid's been shooting his mouth off yeah go teach him a lesson and Benny's like well I don't want any part of it and Dicko's like you don't want to never do anything fun and it's just like bro really psycho yeah so Dicko shoots in the air and wakes Jake up and he sticks a shotgun in his face and then he's like pushing him towards the uh the water pump station yeah and and Benny like knocks him out hits him in the back of the head with like a hammer or some shit dick move yeah and and Dicko's like what'd you do that for he was gonna go you mug and then Dickko's like he wasn't gonna go me you know pig's ass and and and Dicko says you just spoiled everything and Benny's like spoiled what and then what is the plan here and then and then and then Dicko pulls out what looks like shears like nailed to a fucking stick.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah I think that's what they were it's creepy man.
SPEAKER_07:It's like a yeah it's got their shears but then a blunt yeah or like or okay may and maybe it's something that he made himself he was bored one day and he made some kind of supplement mass destruction.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah something a tweaker would make when they're on a bender.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah so he pulls it out and he's like I'm gonna bust his legs and he does and Benny's like Jesus man you give me the shits Dicko if you're just gonna do it bloody do it. Yeah and Dickko does it he he fucks Jake up pretty good.
SPEAKER_04:There's a cool shot where they just show the the moon in the background and it just drops blood red.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah just turns blood red and you're just like and you just see the silhouette of his hand raised with this weapon yeah as he comes you hear it it's like yep but you don't see it until the following shot yeah and Benny's just like it shows a shot of Benny he's just like shaking his head because he knows what's happening and he knows that his brother is kind of going off the deep end probably going insane. Yeah and he he's powerless to stop it so he's just he's a part of it he's an accomplice yep you know he could have stopped any of this at any time he could have said no to his brother attacking Beth Winters. He's like no you can't do that. Yeah you know we already have a bad reputation in this town you want to ruin it forever but you know that's what happens when you're complicit with crime like that yeah don't enable these yeah psychos you see something say something that's right yeah so the next day we get uh we get Jake waking up to two busted kneecaps they wreck him yeah they show it his jeans are ripped up and uh just bloodied knees oh yeah and he uh he did a number on him yep so Jake starts crawling towards the pump shed which is kind of strange to me it's like why why would you not crawl closer to your truck for real with your weapons and you know maybe some water I I suspect it's because the director's like this is gonna look great. Yeah I suspect it's like plot armor. That's what it was plot armor. And he's crawling through this you know probably tetanus infected water. It's disgusting you know pig piss and pig shit and you know he's probably got trichonosis crawling all through it and then you know he has these open these brutal open wounds on his legs. Which are getting infected yeah it's like bro but I'm mean I mean that's probably not the the that's the least of his worries. Yeah because the the the wild pigs start showing up and he throws like this like pig femur bone at him he's like it's fucking hilarious yeah it's like there's so much like animalistic action in this movie. Oh yeah well and primal yes for obvious reasons yeah but uh the pig's got its number man they're like your revenge is or our revenge is yeah we're gonna keep you dude you better hurry up we know what you do to us yeah so he's crawling towards the pump shed and he finally gets in there and there's like a little trickle of water coming off this little like gas powered pump or electric pump or whatever it is and um the you know one pig he tries to get into the door and fucking the door just like slams him and Jake gets that little grin on his face which is pretty funny. Yeah and um then there's like a a a wide shot of the the all the pigs start running they're taking off and Jake doesn't think anything of it he's he's probably in shock you know his injuries are pretty grievous. Yeah and then the razor back just fucking it just rears its ugly head and it tries to get through the door and and then it like backs off and Jake you know you hear it you hear it like walking around you know like lurking outside the the shed and then it starts smashing through the the door the window or the the side of it to get to Jake and yeah you see it's tusks trying to rip through the door it's it's an awesome shot.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah we we we kind of know at this point that Jake's a goner yeah oh he's toast he he doesn't have his rifle his legs are busted I mean there's just can't go anywhere. Nah yeah so unfortunately he didn't get his revenge no it was the opposite yeah he got tore up yeah he did and again every time that thing comes in to shop in a frame like that the fucking whole whole screen is shaking.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah this thing is massive and his death scene was cut too because it was considered too violent. Yeah you showed me the uncut version oh it's Ross I th I thought it was better they should have kept it oh yeah in my opinion yeah and then the uh the next shot uh shows Carl and Sarah they they track him down and they find him yep yep they find him uh Sarah's obviously distraught they both are but Sarah comes running out of the shed and yeah yep and Carl he he stands by while Sarah takes off to go hunt the razor back because of the tracker that Jake shot it with and Carl's surveying the scene and he sees the the markings yeah yeah Dicko has a tick where he likes to hit the ground with his meat cleaver it's like his calling card yeah anytime he does something carries this fucking meat cleaver it's it's a huge cleaver too yeah I've worked with cleavers that size before there it's for splitting carcasses is what it is. Yeah it goes straight to the bone yeah you hold it at the top of the carcass and you hit it with a hammer as it goes down. That's the old school way of doing it now they would they would use it like a bone saw but the old school way is with a cleaver and yeah he has a nervous tick where he he hits the ground with it he you know he throws it he'll throw it and then he'll knock it down you know something that somebody like that would probably do not even thinking about it it's like hey idiot right you're kind of leaving your mark yeah literally or maybe he does know he's doing it and he just doesn't give a fuck I I would probably go with the ladder either could be true but yeah I think you're right the idiot yeah he is fucking Dick o perfect name for this guy yeah he's a dick yeah yeah so he rolls up to a he he jumps in Jake's Ute which is a a Australian jeep basically and he goes to confront Benny and Dickko cool white shot when he's rolling in you see all those holes from the mines the opal mines yeah yeah yeah those are all mines that were that were already cleaned out yeah and there's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them maybe thousands oh yeah yeah they all they look like kind of I don't know almost like volcanoes that have that have erupted just little tiny ones everywhere yeah but they have like little grates over them so you won't fall in because they're deep they're really deep like hundreds and hundreds of feet you wouldn't want to fall in one of them you're not getting out yeah and it's so desolate you'd die you'd starve to death yeah so Carl chases Benny doesn't hear he rolls up he rolls and he smashes straight into the door that's right and um because uh everybody that hits that hits that little uh oh yeah they do it's the hazard yeah they hit the gas so you know they fucking just go flying over it and um and Benny's like hey Bill you're supposed to use your brakes when you get over the hill yeah and Carl's like my name is Carl Winters as in Beth Winters right and Benny's Benny don't care he's like well that's no reason to knock a book and then he takes a swing at him and he runs off right yeah and and Benny has this nasty fucking meat hook. Yeah it's just like it's a vicious looking hook right looks like it's from uh fucking uh candyman or something yeah yeah and um and he runs off and Carl chases him he's got like this fucking puny looking little 22 right it wouldn't hurt a flea but he's you know he's armed up so he's chasing Benny and Benny's hiding in a in a in an opal mine that's about to get mined yeah and um he's hiding and he jumps up and he he kneecaps Carl with that meat hook I was like ooh that would hurt that would hurt so fucking bad. Yeah man and um Carl's like he he grabs the winch for the on the mine. Oh yeah yeah yeah to drop him down yeah because Benny's like he you know that would have been a good hiding place but you know he had to fuck it up by doing what he did yeah so he he let his presence be known and Carl's like what'd you do to my wife Benny he's like kicking dirt on him and Benny's just dangling yeah dangling there helplessly and he's lying and he said I wasn't even there and he he blames his brother and says it was Dick O and then um and then uh you know Benny outs himself he says you know we weren't we were just trying to scare her and all this shit and and which is you know sounds pretty uh guilty that's a that's a guilty well yeah but then he's like you know he says he wasn't there and then he says like this huge razor back came is like I've never seen anything like it before and Carl's like even though you weren't there Benny right it's like really giving away out at himself dumbass yeah yeah and so I mean Carl is it's just kicking dirt in him every time and just yelling at him yeah like where's your brother where's your brother now yeah he wants revenge yeah so it tells him and Benny's like hey if you if you get me out of here I'll give you a hand and Carl's like fuck you yeah and he leaves him there. Yeah but he doesn't he doesn't hit the winch to lower him but it does that on its own which is pretty cool because you know Benny's basically screwed he's gonna die out there. There's no getting out of that thing unless you can climb I mean I'm sure if you had like the the the arms width maybe and the strength to fucking do it I mean I could probably do it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah maybe you could probably do it but a fat old dude like that that's out of shape that drinks every day no it's assumed that he's dead yeah yeah which is fine yeah good ones uh yeah so then we I guess we go back to Sarah uh head heads back to town and to tell the locals about uh the razor back yeah and they uh uh she has uh the tracking device and she gets a a click on it she gets an echo and she's like I got it and all these fucking rednecks are like we're gonna go kill this thing yeah they're like fuck yeah let's go the camels they're riding camels motorbike it's like it's like uh the Road Warrior right they they steal Taylor's car that's already been stolen once and he's like that's my car it's filled up with like all these dudes and they're like fuck you yeah leaves them behind yeah and then and then he's like he's like oh shit and then he sees a the there's a guy that rides around in this movie on a camel yeah and he's like follow my car yeah and he's riding on a camel people are riding horses and shit it's wild oh yeah it's a circus yeah it it's kind of hilarious how they roll up on this tiny little pig the first one that they find yeah and it's like uh that's not that's not really yeah because it's one of Sarah's experiments that she tracks that's right yeah and then one guy is like a dog's bigger than that it's like and and and immediately their they their uh instinct isn't to keep going they're like uh let's go back to the pub yeah it's like we got some serious drinking to do today it's like right oh that was fun yeah let's get back to business now it's a slaughterhouse yeah and uh the razor back attacks the uh well first carl gets him dick uh in in uh in Dicko's face that's right because because Dicko's getting ready to leave work and Carl like jumps him and like tries to bust his arm and Dicko takes off and does that weird little kicking stop and turn around like that he does.
SPEAKER_07:Very cartoony yeah I think Dicko might have like Parkinson's or something it's just something weird about the guy. For real he has ticks and like problems.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah might be from all the alcohol but there there's probably a cure for him you know that would actually make him a decent person. Yeah yeah but just not in this movie definitely not in this town.
SPEAKER_07:No yeah so you know they're on the chase yeah he chases him down he's getting ready to shoot him and Diko's like daring himself shoot me yeah go on you finish the kangaroo off shoot me yeah shoot me and he's just screaming it and then uh the razor back busts through all these barrels and Diko you know he's he's so freaked out the only thing he can say is wow and he takes off running dude yeah and Carl's like shit yeah what up what do I do now because he really wants a piece of Dickko and he's not gonna leave until he gets it and um you know so Dicko's getting chased by the razor back and doesn't he go up a up a wall to try to get away from yeah he's in like this it's like a little like ravine or something he falls down it and then um he's trying to climb back out and he's running it's like it looks like a maze yeah you know like a natural it was probably like a uh a creek bed or something or something I don't know and he's running and then he confronts the the razor back is like right in front of him and he stops and he puts his headphones on I love that for some reason it's it's such an 80s thing yeah you know yeah oh yeah dude I'd I had a walk man like that yeah you're like uh would you would you have a a soundtrack for your possible demise like if it was in the 80s yeah Iron Maiden Iron Maiden or like the first Metallican okay or Slayer so he he basically gets drug off and eaten alive.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah is a great shot for fitting demise for a piece of shit oh yeah it's too bad he didn't you know couldn't get killed twice yeah but that I love the shot where he's he's you know trying to hold on to anything and that just you just see him get ripped away.
SPEAKER_07:Oh yeah he's toast and again the uh the deleted death scene for Dika was way cooler because it was slower yeah and it showed him getting eaten a lot more it's like why didn't they fucking have that in there for real because uh compared to movies nowadays those scenes are very tame very tame it's like just all the violence in this movie is pretty tame yeah for and it's all done you know like Hitchcock it's done off screen right which you know I'm a fan of I like I like the atmosphere yeah and it's more it's cool because the they they go like the alien approach and Jaws approach where you barely see it. Yeah which is it's a lot more unsettling it's a lot more effective yeah yeah well so then we cut to Carl and uh his face off with razor back and he's trying everything to to stop this thing or to get it he shoots it with that uh 22 I think it's more like a 25 mil I don't know what it is it's regardless it's a sporty little rifle yeah probably for shooting birds and shit right it's another another instance of him not thinking about what about his opponent yeah and what he's got himself into it's like if Jake couldn't stop it with a fucking Australian sniper rifle basically you're not stopping it with that. Oh hell no I think he even throws like a think bro he throws like an empty drum at it he throws beer bottles at it which is pretty punk rock he throws a fucking uh yeah like a gut barrel at him that pisses it off yeah hits it with a shovel did he hit it with a shovel he hit it with a shovel because uh Sarah shows up halfway through this confrontation and she's trying to find Carl to help him out and he you know the razor back hears her and like shoots you know like goes makes a beeline for her and Carl's like Sarah she's between Carl and Sarah Sarah yeah I mean she's on the ground he's up he's up on a on a catwalk yeah so he's like he's busts out a window is like Sarah it's down there get the hell out of here and she sees it and she runs off and um Carl's he he's got one of the roll up doors he's like go go go and the razorback's chasing her and he the razorback runs right past Carl he's he's like fuck you I'm going after her she's slower yeah and we hear a scream in the in in the distance but we don't really see and Carl is at you know he's he's he probably thinks that she just got ate and so he's like fuck this he grabs this big ass gut shovel and he's like um he's like okay he's like walking through the the plant trying to find this thing and he turns around and it's like right behind him. Yeah and it goes this bone chilling roar and he hits it with the fucking with the shovel and runs off it's like okay yeah I think I would have just ran. Yeah it's like you're not you're not killing it with that no no yeah I think uh at some point he he sees an opportunity to lure this thing into its demise yeah he uh there's a there's this long track with uh uh uh rollers on it and it goes to a a rending blade like a a rending platform where they would throw bones and all the shit that they're not gonna use there it's basically a a rolling meat cleaver looks like a fan yeah but the torque on those is so massive that it's gonna grind up anything and it's uh rending plants use them all the time and um Carl gets on his uh gets up on the track and he's talking shit to the razor back he's like you're stupid and you stink too like this thing can understand But it kind of does because it's looking at him and it's kind of like, okay, well, fuck you, buddy. So he he starts following Carl. Carl's baiting it and it's pissing the thing off. Yeah. He's doing exactly what he wants it to do. He gets up on the track and it's just like it's just like this back and forth. You know, the razorback is like inching towards Carl. The thing doesn't realize that it's it's not really walking, it's just getting moved towards the blades, and Carl's like trying to time it to where he can jump off just fast enough, then the razorback will be like, you know, wouldn't won't be able to get off in time.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:And he does. And the thing fucking like a dumbass falls into the into the blades and it gets chopped up.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, man. And then there's bacon for everyone.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. I mean it doesn't it's a good ending.
SPEAKER_04:Doesn't I I s wasn't there a scene where he he impales the the thing with with something sharp? Like a sharp.
SPEAKER_07:Because he it's chasing him and he he he jumps up like like doing parkour. Yeah. And uh he grabs his it's like a steam pipe and burns his hands and shit, but he's he keeps hold of it and he falls and the thing is coming right at him and stabs it in the neck.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and it just keeps going forward. Yeah, just fucking.
SPEAKER_07:He's lucky he wasn't holding it on his stomach because that was fucked him up. For real. He's lucky he got it, he got it, he he got it out of the way in time. It's like, oh shit. Yep, yep.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, so I mean that's it. The uh Razorback is dead, and uh now Carl has to go see if Sarah's still alive.
SPEAKER_07:I always thought that that ending felt kind of rushed.
SPEAKER_04:Me too.
SPEAKER_07:Because they wanted uh apparently McCarron was like, are they they didn't know how they were gonna end it. And um even while filming? Yeah, like during filming, they didn't know. Yeah, this was Mulcahy's first uh feature film. Oh, okay. Yeah. Wow. And uh, so that's why the the the the timing is seems kind of off because McCarron's like, look, uh can we end it tonight, please? We have to get this over with. It's like you um all my work is done, and you're you're wasting money paying me. It's like, you know, let's just finish this. Yeah, let's get it over with. So they they plan the shot, they've set it up, and they filmed it. They ended it. All the all the the dream sequences and stuff were shot in LA after way after uh production was done.
SPEAKER_04:See, uh if I were to end this movie, I would end it with Carl wait or not Carl, uh Jake waking up from a dream and the whole.
SPEAKER_05:I knew you're gonna hate that's my favorite.
SPEAKER_07:No, I do like the idea of Jake being the protagonist, the main I do too, man.
SPEAKER_04:Jake Jake is my favorite character through this whole thing.
SPEAKER_07:I think uh Beth and Carl could have been left out of the equation and it would have been still would have been a great movie. If it was just Jake uh and Razorback facing off, I would watch that. And like Dicko and Benny being the main protagon antagonist. Yeah, fucking. That would have been fucking awesome. Yeah. If I it if I had the balls to remake this movie, I would do it like that.
SPEAKER_04:So Carl goes to check on uh Sarah. Trying to find her, yeah. Yeah, see if she's still alive. If uh she's in one location or several locations. Or just got chopped up in her. Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah. Uh so he he finds her kind of uh she's hanging from the these chains kind of tangled up in them, and he pulls her down, and her eyes are closed. He thinks she's dead. Yeah. I mean, I thought she was it's a good chance she's probably dead. Yeah, or at least knocked out, right? Yeah, and he's just sitting there kind of holding her and crying, and you know, eventually we see her come to life. Yeah, and he's stoked. Yeah, because you know what he's thinking.
SPEAKER_03:He's like, oh yes, I can go. I'm gonna hit this shit tonight.
SPEAKER_04:That they they basically just do a freeze frame. That's how they end it. Yeah, it's a freeze frame of them and it's a happy ending. Yeah, and then you get that great theme by Ivan Davis. Yeah, I love it.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, it's great soundtrack.
SPEAKER_06:It is. It is.
SPEAKER_07:It's got Duran Duran in it.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Uh an Elton John song. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And then did the director do anything after this?
SPEAKER_07:Oh, yeah. He worked on uh Highlander.
SPEAKER_04:That's right.
SPEAKER_07:Bunch of other shit. Tons of music videos. He just does music videos. Yeah, he's done so many. He's done a lot for Elton John. He did a lot of Elton John videos. Uh Men at Work. Okay. He did uh Dan uh Land Down Under.
SPEAKER_06:Okay.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. He he's Australian.
SPEAKER_04:The director. Okay. Well, uh that that wraps up this episode of uh the Dark Territory Podcast. Join us next week when we review the movie The Fog.