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This Green Room Ain't Right
A touring punk band, a hostile crowd, and a door that should’ve stayed shut. We dig into Green Room’s unblinking tension and why the film works so well at the microscopic level: subculture codes, tiny choices with massive consequences, and the cold mechanics of a cover-up. From the first gas-siphoning scramble to that infamous mangled-wrist shot, the movie earns every scream with grounded, lived-in detail.
We walk through the setup—Tad’s make-good gig that leads straight into a neo-Nazi bar—and how the movie uses signals like boots, braces, and red laces to telegraph danger without exposition. Patrick Stewart’s Darcy is chilling not because he rants, but because he doesn’t; he organizes. Gabe, the fixer, turns violence into paperwork, cash, and alibis. Meanwhile Amber’s brutal ingenuity and Pat’s reluctant evolution transform a trapped band into survivors who think in ammo counts and angles, not ideals. Even sound becomes a blade—feedback versus trained dogs—turning the venue’s gear into a toolkit for staying alive.
Along the way we talk Pacific Northwest scenes, Dead Kennedys as a tactical opener, and the ethics of playing to hostile rooms. We also share a real story from Tacoma’s past that mirrors the film’s themes, laying bare how ideology curdles into logistics, and logistics into irreversible harm. Green Room isn’t just a thriller; it’s a study in how control is taken, kept, and finally broken by people who refuse to be props in someone else’s script.
If gritty, tightly wound thrillers and deep-cut subculture analysis are your thing, press play. Then tell us your desert island band, your favorite anti-fascist track, and whether Darcy works for you as the big bad. Subscribe, leave a review, and share this with a friend who loves punk, horror, or both.
Oh yeah, green room. I'll say green room. Not the green room. It's just green room.
SPEAKER_00:Green door.
SPEAKER_01:Have you ever uh played at a place and had in the room? Hell's Kitchen had a green room.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, green room. It was well, yeah, more like a green closet, but they had a green room.
SPEAKER_01:Most places I played, like yeah, you're right, Hell's Kitchen.
SPEAKER_00:That was a great place to play shows. One of the only places in Tacoma to play shows.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Now it's like a fucking brunch place.
SPEAKER_00:Gentrify crap. For real. Then people complain about in the com in the punk community, what punk community there is in Tacoma. They say there's no places to play shows. It's like, well then keep a place to play shows.
SPEAKER_01:No shit. Are there any good places at all? Like I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Maybe. There was a place. No bands come through here anymore. The well circle jerks play it, but they played at the Temple Theater.
SPEAKER_01:The Temple actually, yeah. I mean, it's it's had some pretty decent shows lately. Uh fucking Mars Volta is playing.
SPEAKER_00:Cradle of Phil.
SPEAKER_01:Mm-hmm. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I saw Pig Face there a long time ago. That was cool. That was a wild show.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god. Alright, you ready to do this? Welcome to the Dark Territory Podcast. I'm Sean. I'm Brandon. Each week we dive into the films, music, and books that fuel our passion for everything dark, mysterious, and strange. Today we're gonna discuss the epic punk horror uh mashup. I don't even know how to describe this movie. It's gory as fuck. Uh a taut thriller. There you go. Yeah. It's Green Room. Anyway. Yeah, this is uh this is a movie that you recommended, Brandon. And uh I had not seen it before, but I'd heard about it. I think it it was in 2016 when it came out.
SPEAKER_00:2015.
SPEAKER_01:2015. And it was kind of kind of went under the radar for a lot of people, I think.
SPEAKER_00:Which is kind of weird because it's an A24 film, and they're really hot right now. Yeah. They pump out great content.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Probably uh the A24 crowd, as soon as they realized there there was neo-Nazis in it, were like, oh, I don't I don't think I want to watch that. Fuck them then. This movie, you know, it starts off with you got this this band, The Ain't Rights. Um, let's see, where were the casts? We got Pat, Sam, Reese, and Tiger.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And the the name fits uh because these kids ain't right. Um the first scene we see them uh in a van basically it looks like they veered off the road into a cornfield.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they were drunk.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I at first I didn't know if they were drunk or if they just were sleep deprived or whatever, but it looks like they had a rough night. Yeah, yeah, they're a touring band. It's not glamorous, you know. No, it's awful. Stuck in a small van with uh much of smelly people, you know, and uh that's playing live is awful. I mean back in the day it was everything.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you know, when I played in band, it was fun for there's a lot of ego involved though. Yep when you're dealing with that's why I like the one-man band approach. You know, sure. Yeah, a lot of black metal bands do the one-man band because you you don't you're not uh beholden to anybody, you know? Yeah, you can just do what you want.
SPEAKER_01:I agree. I mean, when you're in a band, you're dealing with a lot of strong personalities usually. Um and then sometimes it could be a slog just to get anything through, like decision making. Okay, let no, I want this to be louder, or I want this to be different, or blah blah blah.
SPEAKER_00:But the characters in this film, I think they're they were friends first. That's why they they gel so well as a band, it feels like, because you know, you hang out with people enough and you become friends, then you start a band, it's a different dynamic than when you apply for a band. Yeah, I've only been that sucked. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's it's a strange feeling because I've done both too, and it's just it's a different dynamic.
SPEAKER_01:It feels like a job, yeah, it doesn't feel like a hang.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you know, and then when it doesn't go your way, there's a lot of hard feelings. Yep, that's true. Because one of the most successful bands I was in, they asked me to join after the original bassist like didn't work out. I was like, sure, I'll give it a try. And we got you know, we got pretty popular. I'll I'll give us that, but it was me because I wanted to play faster and more aggressive stuff, and they wanted to do more rock and roll. And I was like, whatever, and I started being a real asshole, and they kicked me out. Booted you out.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, it happens. Well, these guys, they're uh it looks like they're they're trying to figure out what to do about money, uh, which is often a problem when you're touring.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they're running out of gas because they let they pass out in their van and they leave they they left it running. Yeah. So they wake up in the morning and they're all fucked up and hung over. Yeah, at least their phones are charged. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So they're sitting there and we need some gas. So Pat and Sam up on the bike. Sam gets on her her little uh her cell phone and she's like, There's a roller rink seven miles from here, and they're like, Oh, let's go. So time to go siphon some gas. Yeah, she she's uh she's sitting on the back of the of the bike.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, on her phone. Yeah. While he's pedaling.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. That's some real 80s shit right there. Yeah. We used to do that. And except for it was on the handlebars usually. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:They had a special little seat on the back, I thought was like that's bougie.
SPEAKER_00:Like a banana seat. Yeah, yeah. So they get to the roller rink and they proceed to steal some gas, which is not advisable.
SPEAKER_01:No, you never know who's gonna roll up on you.
SPEAKER_00:Especially in a rural area like that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you're probably gonna get it met with a gun in your face.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, especially with the way gas prices are nowadays.
SPEAKER_01:At the very least, I chase them off.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, like with a baseball bat, like, that's my gas. Get the fuck away from my be like Lord Humongous in the road where give me the pump, the oil.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the whole compound, I spare your life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, so then they what they get they meet up with uh Tad. Tad, yeah, Tad. He's a local radio host. He's doing an interview, wants to feature them, and he uh he seems real real stoked, you know, to be doing this, and they he seems really into their music.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he lets them crash at their place, and he but he has to go take care of some stuff. So he gives them the key to their pad and his pad, and they go up and they're going through his records and they put fear on. I was like, that's cool. Yeah. And then he comes back and they he does his interview and he's asking them, you know, what their desert island band would be. And like uh Sam, she says Poison Idea, and I was like, Oh, that's a keeper right there. Yeah, yeah, Poison Idea, that's a great Portland hardcore band. Never heard of them. Never heard of Poison Idea and you lived in Portland? Wow, dude, that's wild.
SPEAKER_01:Probably not back when they were popular.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, that's some classic American hardcore.
SPEAKER_01:Nice.
SPEAKER_00:They well they play Poison Idea in the in the soundtrack. Oh, okay. When they're then when they're driving to the the gig that Tad gets them.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay. Yeah, I think I think I was more into like like uh like Dead Moon, you know. Oh Dead Moon's a shit too.
SPEAKER_00:Wipers, yeah, Iron Cross, not Iron Cross, uh Lockjaw. Okay. Portland had a great music scene.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, they did. Yep. And they will never let you forget it. Oh fuck no. They they still argue about whether or not Seattle or Portland had the better scene. And in my opinion, I think Portland probably did uh over Seattle at the time. The whole Grunge thing ruined uh the music scene, in my opinion, in the 90s. I think so.
SPEAKER_00:The original grunge bands were cool, like Mud Honey. Oh, yeah, it's still great. I love Mud Honey. Yeah, it's one of my favorite Seattle bands. Yeah. But we had the accused, we had Coffin Break, but yeah, the farther, farther south you went, the it seems like the better the bands got. Because like Portland, of course, you know, the wipers, yeah, uh, Saddle Nation, Poison Idea, uh, Lockjaw, all these bands, all those bands are just classic bands. Yeah. I mean classic. So he's interviewing him and he asks him about their about their desert island bands, and then he asks why they're not on social media.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And Pat he gets kind of bougie about it. He's like, Oh, we just like you know, we like touring, it's more natural. About the experiences in the music. Yeah, okay. If you like not showering and being broke all the time, then yeah. It's great. Go for it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. I kind of rolled my eyes a little bit because it's it's a little bit young and idealistic and naive. But you gotta respect them. Uh, you know, they're they're fucking doing the grind. Yeah. You know, they're they're going for it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And Ted proceeds to tell him that their their gig fell through, but he's got another gig lined up for him at a at a cafe. So they wind up making six bucks a piece at the door.
SPEAKER_01:680. Yeah. And uh, and free, free uh Mexican food. Yeah, which hey, it's not not a bad haul for one gig. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You know, beggars can't be choosers. So they they do their gig and and Tad is has uh good graces to even give him his cut because he's the one that like orchestrated the show, yeah. And Tiger, he gets pissed off and he slams him up against the wall. It's like okay, dude. Fucking dick move. Okay, act like a fucking typical tough guy, jock punk, right? Like everybody, uh does. Yeah, it's like typical punk rock shit. And then Sam is kind of rolling her eyes, like, okay, like what the fuck is that for? I've seen that shit happen so many times at shows. It's just like it's unnecessary.
SPEAKER_01:It's fucking stupid. Come on.
SPEAKER_00:And then, you know, so he he says, Look, I'll make it up to you, okay? I'll I'll fix it. I'll get you a gig at my at my cousin's bar yeah in southern Oregon. Is I was like, I don't know, it looked like Gresham. It looked like he was like the or or like right outside, like almost at Grant's Pass. Yep. Or like Eugene, or like if you've ever like been to Southern Oregon, it it's pretty desolate.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I mean, this thing looked like it was in the middle of the woods. Yeah. You know, like there's nothing around.
SPEAKER_00:So Tad, he gets him, he gets him another gig to make up for it, which is I don't think they deserved it after that stunt. So like slam me up against the fucking van. Fuck you. Yeah, go find your own fucking way.
SPEAKER_01:Might might be a little uh a passive aggressive move on his part for getting slammed up against the wall because it turns out that this is a neo-Nazi bar.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well, he tells him, he's like, it's a rough crowd, it's boots and braces, you know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they know what they're getting into.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he tells them it's like it's a skinhead bar. Yeah. And then Pat's like, are they sharps? Are they like traditional skins? And they're like, and Tad tells him, he's like, No, they're more on the right side of it. And they're like, Oh, well, but it's 350. So that's enticing, you know, 350 bucks.
SPEAKER_01:They need money just so they can keep going.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because they're an East Coast band, they're from uh like Virginia or some shit. So they go to this fucking club. They it the club doesn't have a name, it's just the club. Yeah. And you know, they're driving up and you see a lot of baldies, all these guys with flight jackets and shaved heads, and they're like, Oh shit. Yeah. When they meet Gabe, the manager of the bar, and he's like, You're the ain't rights, and they're like, Yep, that's us. And he's like, Okay, yeah, you're on in 30 minutes, we'll show you where to still your gear and follow me. Yeah, everything is kind of playing out like a like a normal gig would be, other than the skinheads, everything is kind of you you look where you're gonna load in, you know, if you're lucky enough to have a roadie, yeah. Put him to work. Yeah. And Gabe is a pretty cool character. I like the guy that plays him. Uh what's his name? Maken Blair. Yeah. He's a good actor. He's been in a bunch of stuff. And and Gabe, you know, he's kind of the linchpin. He's trying to hold all this stuff together. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, as best he can.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and and it's kind of cool because later in the movie he, you know, he has a change of heart, basically. Yeah. And he realizes the errors of his ways.
SPEAKER_01:At least somebody learned in this movie.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So they uh they hit the stage. Yeah, they hit the stage and they probably pull one of the fucking greatest punk moves. Yeah. They're uh they're trying to figure out because there's you know, there's like white pride worldwide flags everywhere.
SPEAKER_01:What's gonna be our opener for this crowd?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and uh, you know, there's fucking Confederate flags everywhere, and it's just like you know, the crowd is just they're all skinheads. Yeah, if you've ever been around a large group of skinheads, it can be pretty intimidating. Yeah, especially if you're not down with that shit. So they're sitting there and they're like, I got an idea, it's a dumb idea. And Pat says that he's like, I got an idea, but it's a dumb idea. I'm just like, play this song, and um, yeah, they they open up their their set with uh Nazi punks fuck off. Yeah, the Kennedy's yeah, and uh and you know props to the to the crowd because there's a few of them that are like shaking their head, like nodding, like, yeah, that's ballsy. Yeah, I give them that.
SPEAKER_01:They they kind of earn their respect a little bit through the hatred, yeah, and and kind of ballsiness.
SPEAKER_00:It's like they fucking they went to play that, okay, cool. And a few of them are like nodding their head, like, good, good on you, you got guts, yeah, yeah. And that was played live, they actually learned how to play that song.
SPEAKER_01:Yep, I think they they learned how to play a bunch of the other songs too, like like off off screen, they were actually pretty good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Do you have any favorite uh anti-Nazi songs?
SPEAKER_01:Not really, besides that song.
SPEAKER_00:No, I mean it's I it's not really my scene. Um I would say Discontent by Poison Idea. I'll play it like afterwards. Okay. That's a badass song.
SPEAKER_01:Nice.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So if you guys have any in the comments. Sure. And a lot of the people in the crowd are pissed off though.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you get some bottles thrown.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. This one really scary looking like black metal skinhead wearing a Watane shirt. He spits fucking beer at him. He's just like he's just giving him the mad dog looking. That guy, he plays an integral part of the story in about 15 minutes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:He's a scary looking dude.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Not somebody you'd want to follow.
SPEAKER_00:No, he's got those dead eyes. Yeah. Like psycho eyes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah. And you get this nice kind of slow-mo shot where they're all kind of grooving to it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, when they permanent after they after they do Nazi punks, then they do their second song. And I guess they played a whole set. Uh there's a there's a lot of jump cuts in this scene.
SPEAKER_01:So good scene.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And um, there's two girls that show up, and there's uh Tad's cousin, his name's Daniel. He's the one that that gets in the show. And turns out that Daniel's girlfriend Emily and her friend Amber are in the crowd too. And there's uh there's a lot of stuff going on with these two, uh, with Daniel and Emily. They're they're pretty much planning on like bailing on their gang. Which this is a gang. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah. It's organized like a gang. So but they they want to get out, but Daniel splits and and uh Emily goes off back into the green room to talk to some people. And that's when you see Worm, the black metal skinhead dude. Yeah, yeah. Worm is uh he's a scary dude. Yeah, he's going back to the green room too. So there's something going on because there's there's a bad vibe brewing in this place.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you can definitely tell something's happening. Yeah. But yeah, they end the gig. It looks like everything went as well as could be expected. They survived.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and the club bouncers named Big Justin, he's a big dude. Yeah. It kind of, you know, I mean it checks out, right? Yeah. They're really rushing uh the ain't rights out the door. They're like, look, uh, here's your money. Yeah, good luck, yeah. Fuck out of here.
SPEAKER_01:Right. And then Sam, I think, uh she left her charger in the green room.
SPEAKER_00:It's like I'd I just would have been like, fuck it. Keep it. We got 350 bucks.
SPEAKER_01:For real.
SPEAKER_00:How much is a charger cord?
SPEAKER_01:Five bucks. Yeah. He had a gas station even.
SPEAKER_00:You can buy them at fucking GameStop for like two bucks to use one. It's like, get the fuck out of there.
SPEAKER_01:For real. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But Pat goes back to the green room to get her shit, and you see the end result of all the drama that was going on. Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah. You basically got a girl on the ground with a knife stuck in her head.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Uh they kill Emily.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Worm kills her.
SPEAKER_01:And so they're uh they're kind of freaking out.
SPEAKER_00:And uh you know Pat instantly goes to He's like, I'm gonna call 911 and starts running down the stairs with his phone. And and all the all the skinheads are like, We told you to get the fuck out of here. Now, now you're fucking stuck.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And then uh Pat's on the phone and he's like, I need I need to report a stabbing. And Big Justin, uh no, Gabe grabs the phone. He's like, he's like, and he hangs up on it. Then he calls 911 back, he's like, Yeah, uh, I have to report a stabbing. Right. But he has a plan, like he's he's super quick on the on the draw.
SPEAKER_01:He's like, he's like a fixer. Yeah. He he knows how to handle situations like this that are getting out of control.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So he goes outside and he's talking to uh another one of the skinheads, he's like, Yeah, I need uh two true believers.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. He gets these uh these two young skins to stab basically stab themselves. He's like, Look, I'm gonna pay you. Yeah, he goes and gets uh he he gets uh 650 bucks from Clark, the dog handler for the for the gang. Right. Because they use pit bulls and shit. It's like petty cash. Yeah, yeah. This club probably uh employs all these guys like for tax purposes. Yeah. But they have another side hustle that yeah, which we find out later on.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. There we see.
SPEAKER_00:So Clark he gets uh he gives him the money, and Gabe gets these two skins, probably like 17 and 18 years old, to basically stab themselves. One of them stabs the other and to make it look like scream action, you know, like, okay, you do me now. So they fucking they do it. Rough. Yeah. And he's like, if you have to do time, we'll double the money. Yeah. It's like fucking wow, dude.
SPEAKER_01:They have a whole contingency plan. It's like just laid out, yeah. Ready to go.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. That's the beauty of this film. There's so many like moving parts to it, like I said. But it's but it goes boom, boom, boom. Yeah, it's very quickly fast. It's very fast pace.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So uh basically the the band gets locked in the green room. Yeah. Right. Yeah. There's kind of a standoff. Um we we have we don't see the main guy show up yet, but he's on his way.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and uh, and they're they're trying to figure out if Emily's like actually really dead. Yeah. And Worm is like standing there, and and this guy, he's a lame. He's just so lame. Yeah. He's got these two like Russian mob tattoos up on his neck. It's like, why would you have that? But yeah, you know, and Amber, she's like, Well, maybe she's not dead. Yeah, maybe she's just like passed out. Yeah, she has a knife stuck in her head, right? And Worm reaches down, he starts pulling her. No, he's like pulling her across the ground, and they're all like, oh my god. Yeah, they're all freaking out, and then he just rips the knife out, yeah, and and Amber is like, oh my god.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because that was her friend, yeah. So she's kind of getting traumatized.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And then they go play. The band Cowcatcher that Worm is a part of, they go play. Yeah. And it's fucked up. Yeah. And you know, Worm, he delivers one of the craziest lines in this whole movie. He goes up to Pat and he asks him, he's like, Hey, what was the second to last song in your set? And Pat tells him, and he's like, Yeah, that's fucking that was hard, man. That's the song I did or two. Yeah. And it's just it's it's yeah, it sends chills down my spine just saying it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. That was really chilling. Yeah. Yeah, it kind of lets you know like the just how deeply disturbed these people are. Oh yeah. You know, not someone you want to trifle with.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Uh so when does Darcy show up?
SPEAKER_00:After that.
SPEAKER_01:That's right. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:When the cops show up uh about the stabbing. That's right. Because the cops roll up and they're like, okay, you two on the ground, and Darcy rolls up and he probably has it's some kind of official vehicle, too.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know if he's like it's like an escalator, some black, you know, black tinted.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. He shows up and it's played by Patrick Stewart, Sir Patrick Stewart.
SPEAKER_01:Actually, probably Yukon. Because they're they're way out in the sticks, yeah. That's gotta be it.
SPEAKER_00:Four by. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny that he plays a white supremacist in this movie.
SPEAKER_01:When I when I saw the trailer and I'm like, is that Patrick Stewart? Yeah. I was like, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_00:You know, and and like I said in the car, it's like he should have adopted a he should have adopted an American accent because he's just too prim and proper sounding.
SPEAKER_01:A little bit. I'm not sure if that makes it more disturbing or if it's a little less believable, but you know, the fact that it's Patrick Stewart was kind of like, wow, okay. Yeah, we're going there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. You picture uh Jean Loup Picard. Listen, number one. Yeah. Going to listen to Screwdriver tonight. Bring me my red laces, number one.
SPEAKER_01:You got two uh Star Trek related, you know, people in this movie because you got the candidate. Yeah, the young chuck off, yeah. Yeah. Doing a little face.
SPEAKER_00:Number one, make it so. Yeah. We're gonna get rid of a dead body. I mean, no, no diss to Patrick Stewart. He's a great actor. He's a great actor. He's one of the greatest uh living British actors ever, in my opinion. Yeah. But just seeing him as a Nazi is just like, nah.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I I kind of wish that they gave him a little bit more to do. Because he he's he's got range as as an actor, and I kind of felt like there wasn't that one scene that really kind of makes you go, wow, that was see to me, to me, I mean, I can pick out like certain character traits in a person in a movie.
SPEAKER_00:It's like if they would have left Worm as the main villain, yeah, and had and had him orchestrating all this stuff, that would have been insane.
SPEAKER_01:Sure. And maybe maybe Darcy come in later because he's kind of like the the unseen like super boss, or not even have Darcy at all.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. Because you had you you have Gabe being the fixer, and you know, Worm, he's just so evil and scary. Yeah. I mean, he's and Darcy, he he doesn't really do anything, he's just like it kind of feels like this is his retirement plan.
SPEAKER_01:You know, his retirement plan is to set up this little drug operation that he can just oversee. And he's probably done some really hardcore shit back in the day, but now he's too old to do any of that, so he has all of his little minions.
SPEAKER_00:You know, he's British, he was probably in National Front back in the 70s, you know. That was that's the main like right-wing Nazi party in in Britain. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. They don't mention that in the movie, but if you had to like maybe it's implied.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Because of that.
SPEAKER_00:It's like and he had to leave, he had to leave Britain because a lot of the guys from National Front they got busted.
SPEAKER_02:We're kidding the guy, but we're gonna kick him.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so we get uh Darcy. Darcy shows up, and he's the big boss man with his uh British accent, and uh, you know, at first sounding really polite and and almost you know reasonable.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he sounds almost amicable to him. He goes to talk to the band through the through the door because they got they got Big Justin held hostage, basically. Well, no, Big Justin's holding them hostage.
SPEAKER_01:Right, because he's got a gun.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he's got him at gunpoint.
SPEAKER_01:Six slugs in it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. No, five, remember? Because he's like he's like he lays down some logic. He's like, they're called cartridges. The bullet is what goes into your fucking head when I shoot you. That was pretty cool. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Nice little detail. Yeah. Thanks, Justin, for uh outlining that.
SPEAKER_00:Just big guy. Yeah. So Darcy, straight off the cuff, he he advised he concocts this plan to get rid of the ain't rights. And it's it's pretty ingenious how they they're gonna do it. They're gonna sh they're gonna kill him, but then they're gonna use dogs to attack them and make them look like they're they got maimed. Yeah. Because they're trespassing. They're going, yeah, they're going through their shit and they they find their siphoning gear. Yeah. So they're like, okay, we can use this to our advantage. And Darcy, right off the top of his head, he's like, okay, we'll shoot them, but then we'll have the dogs maul them. Yeah. And you know, we'll make it look like they were they were stealing our gas.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. And our dogs just got them. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, pretty, pretty smart plan for just off off the dome.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Almost like they'd done something like that before. Yeah, you you don't say fucking morons.
SPEAKER_01:What a life, you know. Just another murder we gotta cover up. Yeah. Just another day.
SPEAKER_00:Actually, they do talk about another move uh murder when uh they find that baseball bet.
SPEAKER_01:That's true. Yep. Kind of lets you know that these guys have done this type of thing before. So yeah, they're uh they're they're basically trying to figure out how to the band's trying to figure out how to get out of this thing alive. And Darcy is trying to figure out how to it seems like he's trying to diffuse the situation, but we're not quite sure what his ultimate plan is gonna be, other than you know.
SPEAKER_00:I think he just wants them gone. Yeah. Either way. Yeah. I'm pretty sure if if uh if they hadn't seen the dead body of Emily, they would have just been.
SPEAKER_01:They would have walked. Yeah. Yep.
SPEAKER_00:You know, they should have counted their counted their chickens and just left, you know. They should have they got their money. 350 bucks is a lot of money for a touring band. They should have just bounced, but that's not in the cards. Yeah. So Darcy's talking to him through the door, and he's talking to Justin, he's like, hey, you know, give him the gun. And Justin's like, what? The fuck are you talking about? He's like, give him the fucking gun. Yeah. Trust me, I know what I'm doing. So they give, yeah, Justin hands over the gun to Pat, and they make Justin sit on the sit on the couch and turn out his pockets. And so Justin turns out his pockets, and buddy's he's being kind of uh reticent about it, and he doesn't want to give all of it out. And he's like, Come on, turn them all out. Yeah, and he has a box cutter. And uh Sam, Sam's like, good call.
SPEAKER_01:At some point, Amber grabs it. Yeah, she she takes it, and we'll see how she deals with that later. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um and Darcy's super pissed about the whole thing, slams Gabe up against the fucking wall. Yeah, but but then he apologizes, yeah, like a gentleman.
SPEAKER_01:I'm sorry. Yeah, lost my temper.
SPEAKER_00:So they call in uh Darcy tells Gabe to call in uh the red laces. They're uh they're like his enforcers. And if you know anything about skinhead subculture, um skinheads follow what they call the lace code. Uh lace code is uh you know, they would wear different colored laces to signify different factions and like uh if you're for example, if you had orange laces, usually meant you spent time in prison for your gang. Oh, I see. Red laces usually means you either uh spill blood for the gang or you know you're a Nazi. But now and in some places it's it's different. Yeah because like in Portland nowadays, if you wear red laces it usually means you're like a commie skin. So Jesus. Yeah. It's pretty wild. That is wild. White laces means white power and so you don't have to ask somebody, you can just like see it from a distance, be like, stay away from that fucker. You know. So they call in all these guys, there's like five of them, and there are some bruiser looking motherfuckers.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. And don't the uh doesn't the band kind of arm up? Because a at some point they realize that they they're going to have to open the door. Yeah. You know.
SPEAKER_00:Well they they got the gun and they're searching for other weapons, right?
SPEAKER_01:Right. One of 'em grabs a a tube, uh a fucking uh fluorescent tube.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, Sam grabs a pretty badass. Yeah, it's like if you ever been hit with one, it fucking hurts.
SPEAKER_01:Or break it and stab somebody with it. If you're that's going straight through you.
SPEAKER_00:If you were into amateur backyard wrestling back in the day.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, man.
unknown:Fuck.
SPEAKER_00:So Daniel comes in and he's looking for Emily. Yep. You know, he's like, Where's my fucking girlfriend? You know, and Amber, she tells she basically lays it out for him. So Darcy, he comes up to the door, he's like, We need to talk. And Pat's kind of like, okay. And Darcy tells him, it's like, you know, you're outnumbered, yeah, you're outgunned, you know, you're gonna have to open up the door.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Uh we'll let you go, but you have to you have to give us the gun. Yeah. So Pat's gonna do it. Right. But Amber gets on the floor and she's looking, she's looking at the in the in the in the little grate underneath it. Yeah. She sees the feet. She sees red laces and she's like, they're gonna fucking kill us. Yeah. And Pat opens the door and he's going to hand the gun and they fuck him up, dude. They wreck his hand.
SPEAKER_01:I've I'd never seen anything quite like it. When he pulls his arm back, like his hand is literally like where the wrist is, just dangling, and you just see gash after gash after gash.
SPEAKER_00:It's like you almost want to poke it, like, look at that, man.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and he's that hurt, he's just wailing. Oh, I mean, it's it's brutal. Yeah. The first real kind of uh show of violence in this movie, I think, to that degree, anyway. Not the last though. No, no. This movie. Uh, I believe they they mentioned meat grinder. That's apt for this for this film. Fleischwolf. Yeah, yeah, man.
SPEAKER_00:That's exactly what it is. They're that's I think that's uh that's a German term for you know meat grinder.
SPEAKER_01:Meat grinder, yeah. Yeah, so uh they they shut the door again because you know, fuck that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. That's in there screaming, so fucked up.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. And is this when when Amber opens up uh what's his face with like a present? Jesus. I mean, or the bodyguard.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, Justin? Yeah, yeah, because uh Reese has him on the ground and he's got him in the headlock and he's choking him out. Yeah, because he's he's putting up a really big fight.
SPEAKER_01:He comes to he comes to uh after being.
SPEAKER_00:And then Amber uh she uh she shuts him up for good. She's straight guts.
SPEAKER_01:I I was waiting for it because she's staring at that guy for a long time. I'm like, oh man, she's gonna take that box cutter and do something with it. Alright, so uh yeah, Justin's dead, clearly. Yeah. They've made a big old mess. Um they still have the gun, but I think Darcy makes it clear that they're not getting out of there alive. No. So they gotta turn over the gun. I think they they uh they make a but they emptied it. Yeah, they took all the the gun the you know, it's not like they don't have more bullets. Taking the bullets out is not gonna do anything about it. They got all the fucking guns. All the fucking guns. Yeah. But they they think that that's what they gotta do. So Clark brings all of his dogs in. I would not want to fuck with any of these. No. Um so uh they how did they make their first break? I can't remember.
SPEAKER_00:No, they just open up the door because like they bum rush them, I thought.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. And that's how that's how two of them get killed, basically.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and Darcy, like he he he clears out the club, yeah, so they can you know get down to doing their business. Yeah, he's like, uh, we got a power outage, everybody get out. It's like Sunday drinks are free from two to four. Yeah. And if you're and then he says something about some fucking race like conference or you know, like workshop or some bullshit. Yeah. He's like, you can come to that and drink for free too. It's like fucking lame. Shut up. For real. Amber gets attacked by the pit bulls. That's right. And then they they uh and then Pat, he he uh he he figures out a way to get the dogs offer because he he grabs the mic and he puts it up against the up against the speaker, and you know, like feedback it's pretty hardcore.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's like you know what a great intro to a song that would be to hear it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, feedback and the dogs are yeah, and the dog bounces and you know, and then Clark is pissed off outside, like he's like, they're fucking with my dogs. You can't you gotta make sure that they get rid of that fucking he's like Turn the mic off. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01:And um this so and then and throughout that whole scene, you can hear the feedback still in the distance until one of them goes and finally just unplugs it back.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, the the skinhead Jonathan, he's like, he's like, okay, let's go take care of this shit. Yeah. And Gabe, you know, Gabe, there's a shot of Gabe, and he's he's he talks to Darcy and he's looking like he's getting kind of tired of it. Like he's having a change of heart. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I think that's when he uh he's like, maybe my life decisions up to this point haven't been the best.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. You know, and he's in too deep.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So uh Darcy tells Daniel that uh the ain't rights are the ones that stabbed Emily.
SPEAKER_01:Oh right.
SPEAKER_00:So Daniel and another skin named Jonathan, they find out about the escape plan of Emily.
SPEAKER_01:Which is fucking ridiculous. It makes no sense. Yeah, why would Why would a band that's out of town just playing a gig stab your girlfriend in the head?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and I think he knows that's kind of bullshit too. And uh Daniel and this guy Jonathan, they they talk to the ain't rights. So Amber tells Daniel, it's like, do you really want him to know like the truth? Yeah. About, you know, like why Emily was killed. Yeah. And you know, and Daniel's like kind of looking at Jonathan, and Jonathan's like, what the fuck is she talking about? What's going on?
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Then he takes off, and Daniel's like, okay, I believe you, but we're gonna have to fucking, you know, like get some guns. Yeah. I know where there's a gun. And there's like a shotgun underneath the bar.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_00:So they're making their way towards the towards the the shotgun, and Daniel gets fucking blown away. Just like fucking gets a of course a shotgun shell straight to the face, dude. Yeah. So brutal. Sam gets attacked by the Pipples, and she gets killed.
SPEAKER_01:And doesn't Tiger also gets his throat.
SPEAKER_00:They both get killed. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Fucking brutal, man. And the props to the makeup, man. It looks fucking great in this movie. Like when they when they kept showing him, it looked real. It looked fucking brutal. Yeah, so that sucks. Yeah, so two bandmates are gone.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so it's just they're gonna have to put an adult lift.
SPEAKER_01:They're gonna have to put an ad out saying, like, uh, we need a drummer and a guitarist, uh, because they got maimed at a neo-Nazi bar.
SPEAKER_00:Fucking dead. So Amber and Pat, they're basically under siege. They go back to the green room and they're trying to figure out like what the hell they're gonna do.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, now they've kind of teamed up, they've become kind of the survivors of the city.
SPEAKER_00:Well, yeah, I mean, out of necessity, yeah. She acts like she really doesn't like him.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And there's a funny line at the end where she makes that perfectly clear. Yeah, it's fucking hilarious.
SPEAKER_01:Who gives a shit? Yeah. It's like tell somebody who gives a shit.
SPEAKER_00:And and Amber has a very like drugged out way of talking, so she just sounds like she's fucked up all the time.
SPEAKER_01:That actor's British, I didn't know that. Imogene Poots? Yeah, I I I totally forgot because she does accents really well, I've noticed, in in her other films.
SPEAKER_00:Sometimes uh people when they have a natural accent and they have to change it, like Colin Farrell, yeah, when he does an American accent, you can still hear the little lilt of Irish. They're sitting there and Amber and Pat, and Pat starts uh philosophizing Phil is that philosophizing Phil Phyllis.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I guess so. It's it doesn't sound right, but I think it is.
SPEAKER_00:Well, he's talking about paintball and war.
SPEAKER_01:That's right. And well, she wanted him to finish the pep talk.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so they're talking about you know, war and the the the paintballing episode and how he just him and his team just got wrecked by these fucking and he's like, I was unprepared.
SPEAKER_01:And he and he tower he he ran.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he chicken dog and she's like, Yeah, okay, well that checks out.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but uh he can't run now. No, you gotta face this head on.
SPEAKER_00:Yep, literally. Gabe and Darcy are sitting in there and Gabe earns his red laces. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good for you. And he he doesn't even look like he looks kind of happy about it, but then he's just sitting there like, fuck my life, dude.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. What have I become?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. It's like the some parts of your life are like red boot laces. Okay. Great.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. So then uh what Pat and Amber decide to prepare for war. Yeah. They they put on the the war war paint and everything.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And um they have the guns, yeah, but they only have three shells.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:No, the other uh the uh Jonathan and the other skinhead, they only got like three or four shells.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because Amber's keeping track. Yeah. She's counting. Yeah. Yeah. And Amber gets really creative. Uh almost like I don't know if you seem like Pumpkinhead, but like animating dead bodies and shit. That kind of came back to mind. I was like, oh, that's that's twisted.
SPEAKER_00:She uses uh Emily's body as kind of bait. Yep. Because she puts her uh she uh she puts uh Emily Emily's legs through the through the little manhole. Yeah. And Jonathan's like, fuck it, fucking lights it up. Yeah. And then she drops Emily's body. He's like, hey, wait a minute, she's already dead. Yeah. It's like, way to go, idiot.
SPEAKER_01:Yep, that was punk.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Smart.
SPEAKER_00:It's like use your brain.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so Amber gets the upper hand, yeah, takes him out.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and um, they're both killed, and then they go back out of the green room, and Gabe is sitting there cleaning shit. And he just sees him and he's like, Yeah, and he's like, he's he just yeah, he has a come to Jesus moment and he's like, I want to go to jail. He realizes his numbers up, you know.
SPEAKER_01:It's like, yeah, he uh either you die fucked up or you go to jail.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's like that's that's the that's pretty much uh how it's gonna end for you if you join a gang like that. Yeah. You either leave, go to jail, or you're killed.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Either by the circumstances you put yourself in or by the gang members themselves. Yeah. You know.
SPEAKER_00:So we get to the uh Darcy and everybody, they're they're getting ready to, you know, stage the crime scene. They got all the bodies up there. Right. And Clark is uh he's poisoning one of his dogs to you know to kill the dog to make it look like they killed the other dog, that dog. It's a very convoluted plan. Yeah. You know, it if you've seen the movie, you realize it's like we're we're pretty much winging it with this review because it's it's hard. This is pretty much.
SPEAKER_01:It's hard to keep track of all those little beats.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. I mean, but it it it like the story itself is very linear. Yeah, it's a very taut thriller. Yeah it's it's it's wound really tight. Yep, it's a great movie. You know, just bear with us. Yeah. We wanted to do a departure from all the horror stuff after Halloween. So um and Clark he gives uh he gives them the uh the attack command, which is uh Foss, which is a German word. I can't remember what it was though. Right. I think it just means attack. Yeah. If I if I remember right.
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. You feel bad for these dogs because they're just you know they're just meat, they're just being used. Yeah, poor dogs.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. I don't like to see dogs getting hurt or killed, even if they're neither do I, man. Just like these ones, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So Patton and Amber, they tell uh they tell Gabe, it's like, okay, we're gonna let you go, but you have to call the cops. He he's like, okay. So he just starts walking, yeah. And he walks into the woods, yeah, and um they uh they confront one of the other skins, they're holding their guns on him, and they're all like, Oh, they're gonna, you know, they they see what the plan is, they see how they're gonna be framed and everything. Yeah, and then they're like, it's great. Yeah, it all clicks at the end, and then you realize like what they were gonna do. It's like okay, that makes sense.
SPEAKER_01:She's like, We're gonna make another one.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, that was a cool line.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's like good she had some really badass lines, good on her, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So Darcy just turns around, he starts walking, he's like, fucking, he knows it's the end. And um, they're sitting there and he starts walking, and the one skin gets shot, yeah, and then they start shooting Darcy and they they fucking waste him. Yeah, man. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and then there's uh there's like an epilogue scene where it shows um worm, he shot some bad dope that Darcy. Yeah, we we didn't put that in there. Yeah, Darcy, he has a hot dose to give to all of them. Yeah, yeah. To because he was originally they were gonna do uh they were they were gonna give it to the ain't rights, and maybe you know like they shot dope.
SPEAKER_01:So fucking hey, man. But don't do drugs kids.
SPEAKER_00:Fuck drugs. Don't hang out with Nazis.
SPEAKER_01:This movie has a lot of life lessons, I think we will uh agree with.
SPEAKER_00:It's like uh it's like that movie Romper Stomper.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's the same same kind of thing. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, totally.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So then we uh we get Pat and Patent uh Amber sitting on the side of the room.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah, and Clark was killed too.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So Clark is sitting there wasted and um sitting there and everybody dies. Yeah, his poor little dog comes up and he's he just sees he sees his owner laying there. The dog just like lays down and splits his little head on. It's like, oh man, fucking heartbreaking. Yeah, yeah. Because the dog's gonna die because he poisoned him.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah, that's rough.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, that's uh basically it. I mean, uh Pat and Amber sitting on the side of the road. And Pat's like, I got it. I know what my island uh my island band would be, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And Amber in typical Amber fashion is like, tell somebody who gives a shit. Yeah. Great delivery. She sounds like Nancy from Nancy from back in the middle of the day. You're right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's what it reminded me of. I wonder if that was an influence on that actor. I could see it. Probably I could totally see that.
SPEAKER_00:Because it sound sounded just like uh uh the chick that played Nancy.
SPEAKER_01:Little bit of a southern draw, but yeah, you're right. Like her the whininess of that kind of dream. We had a cat.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we ate it.
SPEAKER_01:Never trust the junk. For real. It's like, oh, I hated her so much.
SPEAKER_00:It's like, no wonder Stig killed you. For real. I would have stabbed your ass too. Junky piece of shit. Oh my god. Stig bitch is boss, bitch. Good movie. I give it about three stars.
SPEAKER_01:You gave the last one three stars. Is that your standard? Just three stars already.
SPEAKER_00:I think it's fair.
SPEAKER_01:Um is it three out of five or three out of four? What's the matrix?
SPEAKER_00:Three out of two.
SPEAKER_01:Weirdo.
SPEAKER_00:No, no. I don't think we should give movies stars.
SPEAKER_01:No, we're not that kind of review channel.
SPEAKER_00:Alright, the uh the salient parts of Green Room are directed by Jeremy Sarnier and came out in 2015. Yeah. Stars Anton Yelchin as Pat, Patrick Stewart as Darcy, Imogene Poots as Amber, Alia Shotcat as Sam, Macon Blair as Gabe, Joe Cole as Reese, Callum Turner as Tiger, Taylor Toons as Emily, and David W. Thompson as Tad. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It's a good movie, man. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um, this is gonna be uh something a little different for The Dark Territory, but we're gonna add a true story to this episode. This is about a uh uh time in my life when I uh was a wayward kid, and uh all my friends were wayward too. Um a little backstory. Uh Tacoma used to be a pretty violent town, it still is, you know. Yep. We've had a lot of a lot of different kinds of gang activity and we had the Trang Dye Massacre in the 80s, yeah, hilltop Crips and all that stuff. Oh yeah, and um, yeah, and it we also had skinheads, yeah. And I I hung out with some pretty rough characters back in the day. And um, I had a friend named Carrie, this is not her real name, and um Carrie liked bad boys, so naturally she gravitated towards bad boys when she met the baddest, this guy named Tim. And Tim, he was a member of Volksfront, which was uh it was a uh Oregon white supremacist organization. Probably a lot like the one in this film. Yeah. Okay. They probably based that gang off off of Volksfront. And Volksfront, unfortunately, is still around, but yeah, so um, you know, Carrie and Tim, they hooked up and you know, they went out for a long time. And um I had hung out with Tim a couple times, drank beer with him and partied with him and stuff, but I I wasn't really in his crew.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. You're just kind of uh I was a hanger on, you know.
SPEAKER_00:I just like to have a good time basically, and you know, listen to oi and shit and drink beer, like most skinheads do, right? Yeah. But um Tim wanted to take it a little, you know, a step further for his gang. And you know, he wanted to earn his laces, as they say. So she uh Carrie told me about their plan and I was like fuck that. Basically, they uh they wanted to go commit a hate crime. Wow. And they did.
SPEAKER_01:No shit.
SPEAKER_00:Him and uh three of his buddies, they went and bought baseball bats, brand new baseball bats, like Louisville Louisville sluggers, the uh the wooden ones. This was like 30 fucking years ago. Yeah. This is a long time ago. So she was she got kind of freaked out. She's like, Well, what do I do? I was like, fucking no. Break up with him. Fucking care. Yeah. He's your boyfriend. What the fuck you want me to do about it? You want me to stop him? Can't stop him. Yeah, they're gonna do what they're gonna do. You know, it's I didn't give a fuck. I mean, I thought it was fucked up because I'm you know, not a fucking racist. It's like, I think you should uh you should try to kill anybody. Yeah, I told her, I was like, I think you should try and talk them out of it. It's not worth it. Fuck that. Yeah, so I I distanced myself from it. Yeah, and then you know, the fateful night, she she called me up crying. She's like, help me, you know. I don't know what to do. And I was like, Harry, I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, they're gonna do what they're gonna do. And I just basically hung up on her. I couldn't help her. So Tim and his buddies, they got really drunk one night and they went looking for trouble. And they were uh, I can't remember what it was uh it was under one of the bridges in Tacoma. Uh they found a guy like a homeless person?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah or no shit. Yeah. Damn.
SPEAKER_00:And um they beat the guy to death.
SPEAKER_01:That's fucked up, man.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Held his head on the uh on the on the train track and smashed his head in with the baseball bats.
SPEAKER_01:When did they find the body?
SPEAKER_00:I mean like the next day. Yeah. Uh was it in the new yeah, oh yeah. There was a big court case, and dude got uh Tim got uh life without parole. Damn. Yeah, Carrie called me up just terrified. She's like, he killed him.
SPEAKER_01:I was like, oh yeah, I mean, he said he was gonna.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I was like, it's like that's fucked up. You know, where my head was at, I was like, it wasn't me, I don't give a fuck.
SPEAKER_01:Right, right.
SPEAKER_00:You know, in hindsight, it's terrifying. It's like I can't believe I hung out with people like that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Well, and when you're young, you're not fully aware of just how crazy people can be. Yeah. Um, until they present themselves that way. Yeah. Oh yeah. You just think like, oh yeah, we're all just kind of hanging out or whatever.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and that's when I disavowed the whole skinhead bullshit. Yeah. It's like this is fucking ridiculous.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. It shows you unchecked just where that kind of hatred goes. Oh yeah. It goes nowhere. So wild.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Don't join a gang, kids.
SPEAKER_01:Don't join a gang. Nothing good comes from it. No. You know? Think for yourself if you guys have any that you can think of. Something strange that's happened to you. It could be either paranormal or it could be just fucking weird.
SPEAKER_00:If you met a murderer, fuck it. I don't care. Anything. Anything weird or or strange or unusual. I mean, it is called the Dark Territory for a reason. Yep. I think that uh that that story fit because of the the premise of the film, and it was a true story that happened to me.
SPEAKER_01:Green Room.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's a great movie.
SPEAKER_01:It's a good movie if you're in the mood for it. Like some people might not be, but I'm telling you, if you're in the mood for a gritty fucking crime thriller, yeah, that's got a lot of blood, go for it. Yeah. Well, that's uh this week's episode of the Dark Territory Podcast. Like and subscribe. We want to hear from you, so leave a comment. Call in, you fuckers. That's right. Join us next week when we'll talk about the influential industrial band Skinny Puppy. See you next week.